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Sberry
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Last Activity: Today, 09:32 AM
Joined: 09-01-2005
Location: 16919 Pole Rd. Brethren, MI 49619
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  • Sberry
    replied to Starting out...
    They make a newer style 6-50-r i see. Its a cheap steel thing. Seems less ronust than some other models but wouldnt bothrr me on new 30A machines and looks like the clamp might be better for smaller wires...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Starting out...
    Most places that have 120 have 240. You dont need a monster circuit to run them . Many new dhop setups are wired bacwards. Heavy welding circuit and undersized air circuit....
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  • Sberry
    replied to Starting out...
    Your bio actually helps. If you are fixing sheet metal the unit will run from 120v, small 023 wire. If you want to fabricate a little structural the machine runs 030 well and it really gives it some poop....
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  • Sberry
    replied to Upgraded!!
    Good to see you got your new welder working. If I could get 600 for a Dialarc and lean it towards a new modern machine I would be all over it. There is nothing wrong with a Dial but they invent new stuff for a reason and a 200 inverter can now do the work and to tell the truth can slide by with a 160...
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    Last edited by Sberry; 10-21-2021, 05:54 PM.

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  • Sberry
    replied to Upgraded!!
    Willie, I like your stuff. As you say, just right. Trailer to match. Not so old that its all worn out and you got to fuss over some headache before you can use it. If you are making some money with it the cab is nice, saves a lot of work especially in crap climate, makes the rest of it last...
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  • This is a tough way to start off a welding career....
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    Its input at its rated is about the same as a buzzer. With 50 dt of 12 it would still see 220,with a 10 way less than 1/3 the loss. I spose everyones definition of long is different but most welding circuits rated t 75 ft. My longest one is 1/2 of that. Good chance the new owner cant or wont be able...
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  • Sberry
    replied to I HATE my welder, MM 252
    It shouldnt ever do it. Mosty people cant wear a liner out. I got a red machine I am not too enthused about, not since day one. Some here said they ran bigger wire and it liked it. But the 252 worked well enough its got a bit of a fan club. I agree this is not typical, it should never stop....
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    Most experienced men realize after a while that because there is a 20A breaker on the line its not the load and even heavy draws are 13 or so continuous and larger are intermittent with tools that come with a 16 cord. A few 14. Usually things are not the worst, or not the best. Most loads are not...
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    Last edited by Sberry; 10-19-2021, 08:21 AM.

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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    I have never ran a buzzer at 225. They are rated for 48 draw. The real pull is closer to 40. My DC version is 38 or so maybe at 115 out its been a while. These machines were designed and rated when V was 220. There is a tendency with wire and plumb where fear creeps in, what if so soon we got...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    I stick pretty close to home where my equipment is in good shape and wired a step above the standards but when I was a sprout welded from a whole truckload of buzzers on 10 cable circuits till they were near glowing. Most were short and often something we installed where connections were new and tight...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    I agree that too small would be a problem but we talking within code and within mfg specs. I am not sure how much length factors in overheat, I spose some if the v drop is significant and where its a runaway is a guess , there is a point it overheat and simply wont cool anymore. I agree performance...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    The circuit is number 6 to a recept about 2 ft from the panel and mostly plug direct on its home outlet. On occasion I do use 25 ft of 10, all small, 40-45A for 20%. The real load in a home, small garage is the kitchen, most welding circuits spend 99% of their time off in a home garage and even more...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    They really aint sposed to be wired cable, they should be piped, really ideal is single circuit to outlet. Connected by cord to the machine, number 8. Its simply the ground wire is smaller in a cable.
    In the real world this machine at 1/2 the listed distance will act like a whiz. I probably...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    What protects the electric range from overheating wire isnt the breaker, its the wire size. All the applied loads in the unit connect to a large enough wire it wont overheat, needs a breaker large enough to let all this pass but sized correctly to provide short circuit interuption to the componant/pieces/elements...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    We get caught up on one aspect and miss so many fundamental principles it relies on in true nature. Might be so much more important for laymen to follow instructions and code than people instinctively know.
    One of the best hands on mechanics I ever work with can live from a 16 cord without...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    I absolutely agree. A 6/60 is tailor made for the machine and while method matters a little its a size better than the machine needs and the V drop calcs seem to take the worst scenerio. What I mean by that is the distance is the huge factor. It does become a factor at some point but a lot of difference...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    Most of you guys know more about electricity than I do anyway. My only forum peeve is when someone jumps in with .... you cant,,, when it pertains to a legal circuit followed by the only thing a breaker does is protect the wire in the wall which it really only does on general use circuits with multiple...
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  • Sberry
    replied to Electrical Question
    You are probably right, its been so long since I read aby of that and didnt always understand it well anyway. I think you mean,,, he needs number 6 if using cable?...
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