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  • My first attempt at using HTS-2000 -- a disaster.

    A friend at work had a bar on a sliding door for the past 40 years. Her sister, who has trouble getting around leaned on it too hard and it broke the pot metal end bracket. Recently I purchased some HTS-2000 soldering rods, so I attempted to solder it.

    The instructions included with the kit stated the following:

    Pot Metal, Galvanized and white Metal:

    Work immediately in the flame without preheating the work surface. These surfaces will melt at approximately the same temperature of the rod. Then melt the rod in with them. When rebuilding pot metal, sometimes best results are obtained if you prepare a container of moist sand. Use the sand to hold and position various items to be rebuilt. Small tools such as a dental pick are useful for mixing the base metal with the HTS-2000. Before attempting repair of quality antique items, some time should be spent practicing on worthless pieces.

    As you can see from the first picture, my attempt was a dismal failure. I used a Smith #0 oxyacetylene tip with a neutral flame. The solder didn't seem to stick to the base pot metal. I have read every post regarding soldering pot metal, but I am still missing something. Any help from someone that has done it, would be appreciated.

    The second picture is the replacement bracket that I TIG welded, without difficulty.

    Don
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Don52; 03-27-2016, 07:33 PM.
    Smith Oxyacetylene Torch
    Miller Dynasty 200DX
    Lincoln SP-250 MIG Welder
    Lincoln LE 31 MP
    Lincoln 210 MP
    Clausing/Colchester 15" Lathe
    16" DoAll Saw
    15" Drill Press
    7" x 9" Swivel Head Horizontal Band Saw
    20 Ton Arbor Press
    Bridgeport
    Everlast PowerTIG 400 EXT

  • #2
    I've used something similar to that stuff in the past with limited success. What I did was as soon as I hit the piece with the torch (I used a plumber's torch) I started swiping the rod along the intended repair area. As soon as it started to transfer I just started building up the filler metal. Its certainly not as easy to do as the some of the videos on youtube seem to make it, but once you get the hang of it you won't have a problem. I think the stuff has a place and a use, but in the last 20 years, I've repaired one thing with the stuff. I also don't really see any reason why you couldn't make that solder repair with low flow temp silver solder. I had a candle stick holder that I repaired a few months back. I posted on here for some suggestions, that was one of them and it worked perfectly.

    You could also make a sand mold and cast a new one if you had too. That's really not as hard as it sounds either. But it looks like your aluminum part will work out well enough.

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    • #3
      Is this what you had in mind for a low temperature solder?

      KB430 is a low-temp, non-tarnishing, easy to use silver solder paste. Comes packaged in an easy to use syringe. Works with nickel, silver, tin, bronze, brass and stainless steel.


      Here is a link to Ryan's original post.



      The other choice would be Muggy welds Alloy 1 with their heat control paste.

      Don
      Smith Oxyacetylene Torch
      Miller Dynasty 200DX
      Lincoln SP-250 MIG Welder
      Lincoln LE 31 MP
      Lincoln 210 MP
      Clausing/Colchester 15" Lathe
      16" DoAll Saw
      15" Drill Press
      7" x 9" Swivel Head Horizontal Band Saw
      20 Ton Arbor Press
      Bridgeport
      Everlast PowerTIG 400 EXT

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      • #4
        Heat control paste....... try pre mixed drywall mud (the NON vinyl variety)

        works great... and cheap
        Last edited by H80N; 04-01-2016, 07:49 AM.
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        • #5
          I ended up using some stuff called Stix solder. It was pretty cheap, although I can't remember where I got it. I originally bought it to solder a couple of lid handles back on old German beer steins a friend of mine had. Those lids were pewter and let me tell you, it doesn't take much heat to melt them down either! I just about turned them into scrap metal the first time I took the soldering torch to em! But that solder flowed really nice on both the beer steins and that candle stick doofloppy.

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