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  • jmpgino
    started a topic Small tree pulling device.

    Small tree pulling device.

    Hello chaps,
    I have a problem with some small trees growing on the outer edges of my land. I have been able to rip them out of the ground, using a chain and nylon cord. My main problem doing this is that the nylon ends up being very hard to remove after because it locks up. Sometimes it slips and just strips the trees.
    So I have an idea in my head of welding something up, one part, a sort of hook this is placed behind the base of the tree, then a further part presses the tree into the hook when the chain is tightened by the truck pulling away. Obviously all one fixture involving some pivots.
    I have no idea how to post my idea, so have any of you some ideas that could help me please.
    Yesterday I spent two hours pulling four trees that were no more than two inches thick at the base, the rope just kept slipping, when I did get a good hold, the tree came up like a tooth but took ages for the rope to be freed again.
    Any help would be very kind, I also promise to post a picture of the welded article.

  • Franz©
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    Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
    Breaking stuff and drinking beer, that's about as much fun as you can have without going to jail.
    You can have my share of both.
    NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES work for beer or any other beverage.

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  • ryanjones2150
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    Breaking stuff and drinking beer, that's about as much fun as you can have without going to jail.

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  • Franz©
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    Stump and stuck equipment pulling efforts are often fun to watch, FROM A DISTANCE. and preferably while capturing the destruction to video for posterity and Utube4Boobs.
    I always enjoy watching axles or combine headers flying through the air.
    Oddly safe & sane techniques have existed through the ages, for instance most stumps pulled during the building of the Erie Canal were burned to Potash and the product shipped for soap manufacture. That was done without Nylon straps using the power of draft animals.
    Of course, even in the age of devices and search engines man insists he can do it better with more force improperly applied right up until something lets go and all imparted energy has to go someplace. It doesn't matter that Agricultural Schools have developed and documented safe and sane techniques and gone to the extent of publishing those techniques. Why do the job right when you can destroy equipment and consume beer?

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  • Willvis
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    Yikes! That's a good point, if your going to use a nylon strap then best not to have anything atached to the end (chain or shackle). Nylon on its own would probably be the safest though. Wire rope can have bad consequences if it breaks and I don't think chain would be very pretty either.

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  • Aeronca41
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    Gotta join in here with a big caution about using nylon straps/ropes to pull things. A guy I know is now fully disabled with severe brain damage due to just such an attempt. He had a chain hooked to the concrete-embedded post he was trying to pull out and also had a nylon strap in the mix to get the length he needed. I don't know all the gory details, but something snapped. Since the nylon strap had a lot of tension on it, it was stretched pretty tight. When the chain broke, the hook on the end of the nylon strap very precisely broke through the back window of his truck and smashed into the right side of his head. Described by the brain surgeons as "profoundly life changing", which it certainly was. His life went from great to really bad in an instant. I shudder every time I look at a nylon tow strap now.

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  • Willvis
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    Originally posted by Arizona Joe View Post

    Sounds like you are tying a clove hitch. Around the tree I would tie a timber hitch, a very easy knot to tie and untie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_hitch
    huh, I always thought a timber hitch was a clove hitch and then a bunch of half hitches tie around the timber. I don't know what that knot I described is called then but it works well for lifting object vertically without it slipping.

    Another thing you can try for tree's is a double choke (ie wrap the rope around the tree twice before you choke it). A shackle does help grip tighter since it gives a smooth surface for the rope to slide over. It will also make it a lot easier to undo.

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  • Bls repair
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    Small Shackle tied to rope so you can use shackle to choke the tree

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  • Norma679
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    I think you can use Blue Ox 24-Strand Arborist Bull Rope for Pulling Trees. It has to carrier 12 and tensile strength of around 20,000 pounds. It works on stout limbs, great. It is safe and helpful.

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  • USMCPOP
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    Animated Knots - a great site:

    Timber Hitch - http://www.animatedknots.com/timber/

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  • Arizona Joe
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    Originally posted by jmpgino View Post
    Hello chaps,
    I have a problem with some small trees growing on the outer edges of my land. I have been able to rip them out of the ground, using a chain and nylon cord. My main problem doing this is that the nylon ends up being very hard to remove after because it locks up.
    Sounds like you are tying a clove hitch. Around the tree I would tie a timber hitch, a very easy knot to tie and untie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_hitch

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  • dkennett
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    Use Chain Only

    Take a log chain & pass it around the tree once; wrap end of chain around chain on other side (turn. The chain leading away from the tree 45 degrees from direction of pull); wrap chain around tree in other direction & fasten chain with end hook. The force of pulling will clamp the chain to the tree.

    I pulled six 3-4" stumps this way with my Landcruiser 2 weeks ago.

    If for any reason this chain knot doesn't work for you, tightly wrap the tree with the chain & drill a couple of large lag screws above the chain.

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  • BD1
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    Do you have a utility tractor with a 3 point hitch ?

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  • jmpgino
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    Originally posted by bigtow30t View Post
    In the long run it would be cheaper to buy it from Northern tool
    Well after spending a small fortune on a Dynasty 200 DX, CST 280 and a 211 I am rather inclined to use them when possible, something like this also keeps the brain cells activated.
    I could have purchased a utility trailer but mine is rather special, my SS grill is also something I am rather proud of and there is nothing on the market that comes close in terms of quality. I was at a motor racing meeting a couple of years ago and a bloke came up and commented on both of these items, he turned out to be a school welding teacher, we have kept in contact since.
    I recently repaired a SS olive oil holder, took a lot longer that I had imagined. The wife said I was crazy, I may be but in my mind I am proud of some of the small things I have repaired or created.
    I am also lucky in having the free time but if I was given one of what I need, I would say no thank you and still build my own,it is just the way I am.
    Got to keep the little grey cells working when you get older.

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  • BD1
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    Originally posted by USMCPOP View Post
    Several ideas here: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/b...all-trees.html

    The pipe & chain device is simple to make.

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    This is the easiest. I made one of these 30 years ago and it does the job perfect.
    You cannot beat it for pulling like dogwoods or *****willows. you could even take a grinder and cut teeth on the end of pipe. I made mine out of 3'' schedule 40 so my log chain with hook drops though it. All you need to do is cut a slot for the chain hook to lock on to.

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