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  • JTMcC
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    I guess to people who were raised playing soccer where they don't keep score and everybody get's a "participant/winner" medal the facts of any situation can appear harsh.

    But when you make welds and build things can can damage property or start the bleeding there are no "participant" awards.

    You can find an endless stream of folks on the interwebs that'll give you a "yea! yea! you can do it!"
    You can also find (if you look) people who'll give you real world advise based on experience.

    I'm old enought that I played sports when they kept score and somebody had to lose, so forgive me for not being as touchy feely as you're wanting but it is what it is. Some folks are very thin skinned and are just looking for an injustice or personal attack where none exist.

    But I'll stand by my comment that you need to gain considerable knowledge (not on internet forums) if you expect to build a working, troublefree, safe manlift in your garage.
    When you jump into the world of critical welds, the consequences can be harsh.

    If you don't confuse the presentation of facts with "being mean", life will go smoother.

    JT

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  • Miller Welders
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    Respect on the Forum

    Just want to remind everyone that although it is perfectly fine to disagree and voice your disagreements, we ask that it be done in a respectful way without personally attacking or using profanity toward other forum members or their ideas.

    Full forum terms of use are here http://www.millerwelds.com/about/terms.html

    We appreciate the diverse opinions on this forum and all those who participate.

    Thanks,
    Miller Welding Forum Administrator

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  • elvis
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    I think the JTMcC had a good point. It might have been harsh but it is true. Whenever I have started a project with those questions I quickly learn I shouldn't be doing it. So I go out and learn like crazy. I learn from the internet, from people in my community, and from professionals with experience. I check out what is working and then I restart the project. All of a sudden things make sense and the level of my questions goes way up. Instead of asking someone to design and cut everything for me free of charge so that I can glue it together with a little mig welder, I am calculating max sheer forces of hardware or tweaking designed to maximize strength while minimizing weight.

    People haven't been all sweet and cuddly like our culture seems to think we should be. That is okay! In the end ericher will have a better system from this, I hope. Now get the [email protected]#$ over it and start learning.

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  • R W
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    Originally posted by JTMcC View Post
    Anytime a post starts with:

    "I'd like to build a XXXX".

    And ends with:

    "What style/type and thickness of steel".

    You know this, the poster has no buisness building "XXXX". Either get someone else to do the job, or educate yourself to the point that you don't have to ask kindergarden level questions. That way nobody will likely get hurt. At your present level of understanding you are a disaster just a waiting to happen.
    Your reply to the post in question was not only insulting but also very
    negative, perhaps you should be in politics.
    Last edited by R W; 01-21-2013, 01:28 AM.

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  • ericher69
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    garage Elevator Man lift project

    Monte55; thanks for noticing!!

    Glad I posted this on a Tractor Forum where welding professionals, engineers and freight lift elevator builders by trade can give well intentioned helpful advice.

    For others that are willing to help thank you for the advice!

    for those that ARE being f*+€#g a$$e$...

    Turn the page as I nor anyone else care to hear your unproductive belittling banter

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  • Meltedmetal
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    If people are going to ride on this it should have some kind of automatic braking device to stop it in the event of a component or power failure. As well, if it is not fully enclosed in an elevator shaft with an automatic locking door on both levels it should also incorporate a self-closing door in the upper floor as well as some foolproof sensing device to activate the automatic braking system so you don't have your wife, the over curious neighbor kid or the family pet looking like the Wicked Witch of the West from the wizard of Oz. That is flat from having this platform inadvertently descend on them. Be safe, please.
    Meltedmetal

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  • Country Metals
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    I was actually (jokenly) thinking of putting an elevator in my new house since I have a full basement now. It would just be a northern tool hoist (or air hoist) mounted to basement floor, pulleys to move cable appropriately, with angle framed carriage. Just add some tube to sides and vertical mount channels as guides. Would probably do air because if power failed, it will still go down.

    Wife didn't like the idea until I told her she wouldn't have to carry laundry downstairs anymore.

    And I don't think people are being rude. I understand that this isn't a table or mailbox or whatever, this is something people will be on and helpless if it fails due to a kid laying on it, or whatever.

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  • three turbos
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    A buddy of mine made a similar type set up for his bro. who was in a car accident and is now in a wheel chair.He made a elevator type set up to get from main level in house open door to garage roll on to ramp, push a button and it lowered him down to garage floor level where he just rolled off. It was a very cool but yet simple and effective system I want to say just some mild steel plate, some angle a couple of pullyes mounted to a shaft driven by a motor wich was activated by a garage door opener switch.

    It still works to this day, I know the purpose is a bit different but the theory is the same, go for it hope this helps u some.

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  • monte55
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    Some of you guys have been very rude. If you do not want to help and just be an ***...stay out of it. Do you want this to be another SFT

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  • Country Metals
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    I wonder if this will turn into another, I want to build, you tell me how with knowing nothing and I will get it right first time threads.

    Oh wait, it already did.

    Now, if you want help, we would need to know things like where it will be built, height of building, accessibility, welding knowledge, tools, lifting direction (push/pull), how often you will use it, what it will really be carrying, can you count past 10 with your shoes on... and things like that.

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  • admweld
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    Use 10 gauge plate,1x1 angle iron 1/8 will be heavy enough.And just tack it all together.If you don,t feel comfortable with your welds use 1/4-20 bolts.

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  • ericher69
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    garage Elevator Man lift project

    Will revise if it makes easier (regulation wise)
    Will not use as a man lift

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  • ericher69
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    garage Elevator Man lift project

    BD1;

    Thanks for the advice and link.

    I have a ballpark of 1000lbs to lift;

    This includes platform, myself (250lbs), blower, tiller, blade etc about 400lbs.

    Yes the attic has rough cut 2x8 joists 12" OC.

    Largest unsupported span is 15 feet.

    Will store heavy items over partition/supporting wall

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  • BD1
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    Might want to goggle ''homemade elevator.'' Pictures of the area would help including ceiling area. It sounds like you are asking a lot as far as folding goes.
    Might be cheaper to buy a gantry or copy one for what you require and use a electric chainfall. Your 1000 pound capacity may get used up quick depending on the platform construction. How much do you actually want to lift ? Can the attic hold the weight ??

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Wallace...try&FORM=R5FD7

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  • JTMcC
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    Originally posted by ericher69 View Post

    Thought I would ask the "experts"; if you don't know the answer no need to ridicule me a mere mortal.


    I can build whatever I want at home and utilize it as I see fit and nobody can tell me otherwise including you!

    Thanks 4 nothing


    Well I really do know the answer, but the fact that you asked it means you are in way over your head. And if you actually read my post, I didn't ridicule anyone.

    Of course you can, I never said otherwise, I suggested you educate yourself beforehand and I'll stand by that.

    You're welcome.

    JT

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