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    Here are the first four beads (if you can call them that) using my new ArcMaster 185. I have never welded before. "Oh really? That looks like pro-level work to me" you say?



    The direction of all welds was right to left. This is 16 gauge aluminum and no filler rod was used.

    In order...

    1. First arc. Had no idea what to expect. Just hit the foot pedal and prayed something would happen.

    2. Something did happen, let's try again.

    3. Didn't look like enough argon in the last one, so turned it up a little.

    4. Remembered my foot was on a pedal that could be modulated, so played a little. I think I need to dial in a touch more pre-flow.

    The only thing that worries me is that I didn't realize my auto-dimming helmet wasn't turned on (stupid, stupid) for the first weld. I was thinking "darn this is bright, but I do have a helmet on". Then I played with the settings and discovered my mistake. The helmet worked perfectly for the rest.

    My question is... am I in for some serious pain tonight? I watched for about 15 seconds or so with the helmet in the off position (which is still like a 5 I think). But I definitely saw a nice ghost image in my eyes when I stoped.

  • #2
    good luck........

    LOL i don't know, but i bet you'll tell us tomorrow if you was in pain or not........ lol but first thing's first though, if you want to be a welder you're going to have quit being so honest! lol some things just need to be kept to ourselves! just in case though, if you can still see to drive, wouldn't hurt to make sure you have plenty of milk and some potatoes in the kitchen, because it might be along night.....??? i hope things go well tonight! rodney
    Last edited by handirod; 02-11-2008, 02:38 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by root View Post

      The only thing that worries me is that I didn't realize my auto-dimming helmet wasn't turned on (stupid, stupid) for the first weld. I was thinking "darn this is bright, but I do have a helmet on". Then I played with the settings and discovered my mistake. The helmet worked perfectly for the rest.

      My question is... am I in for some serious pain tonight? I watched for about 15 seconds or so with the helmet in the off position (which is still like a 5 I think). But I definitely saw a nice ghost image in my eyes when I stoped.
      The bad part is, someday you'll do it again. Like handirod said, make sure you have a raw potato handy, slice it and lay it across those eyes when they start showing signs of PAIN, oh you will know. I doubt if you will want to weld tomorrow.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by handirod View Post
        ...if you can still see to drive...
        ROFL. Thanks for the pep talk!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KBar View Post
          The bad part is, someday you'll do it again.
          No, no, no, no... Well, maybe. But, please, no, no, no.

          I am just hoping the helmet blocked enough for short term exposure, even when turned off.

          I've got some potatos and I'm not affraid to use them. The sight might scare the wife and kids, but they'll deal with it.

          Any estimates on how long it would be before I know for sure? If I was going to feel pain, would it start within 2 hours, 4 hours, etc.? It has been about 2 so far, and while I'm not in pain, I can "feel" I was staring at a bright light. So there is some effect. Hopefully this is as bad as it will get.

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          • #6
            Auto darkening helmet - getting flashed

            What brand of helmet do you have?

            I have an Optrel, and I did the same thing. (You can turn-off the autodarken feature so you can grind without it obscuring your vision. I just forgot to re-enable it...)

            I was flashed for about 5 seconds, when I said the same thing, "Man, this looks brighter than it should..." then realized my error. The good news is that the glass in the helmet is designed to protect your eyes if the darkening feature fails completely (or I forget to re-enable it). My eyes were fine. (No visits from the nocturnal welding sandman.)

            I suspect your helmet is the same. The first autodarkening helmets were using inferior technology and they would darken more slowly, which left welders staring at a "dot" when not welding. This led manufactures to install glass that would protect your eyes to compensate for the slow autodarken circuits. After the circuits improved they kept the glass around, as a safety precaution. Now, even if they fail you won't get flashed.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Samurai Dave View Post
              What brand of helmet do you have?

              I was flashed for about 5 seconds, when I said the same thing, "Man, this looks brighter than it should..." then realized my error. The good news is that the glass in the helmet is designed to protect your eyes if the darkening feature fails completely (or I forget to re-enable it). My eyes were fine. (No visits from the nocturnal welding sandman.)
              It is a 3M Speedglas 9002X. Hopefully my experience will be the same as yours. I like to think 3M produces good stuff (and not just because I work for them ).

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              • #8
                Don't get down everyone does it at least once even if they don't admit it its all good live and learn and keep on burning

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                • #9
                  It feels like you get a visit from the EVILsandman.
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                  • #10
                    you should be fine .the "burn" is from ultraviolet light.auto darkening hoods are protected from this in the light stage also,usually to a shade 14 or 15.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Heavy D View Post
                      Don't get down everyone does it at least once even if they don't admit it its all good live and learn and keep on burning
                      Yeah. I'm not really upset that it happened. This was, afterall, my maiden voyage and a mistake like this I can easily chaulk up to inexperience. Now if I had burned the house down, then I'd be really upset.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Iron Head
                        don’t be surprised if your wife doesn’t have to run you to the emergency room about midnight
                        Oh no... More words of encouragement!

                        I think I'm going to have symptoms now whether I actually got dosed or not. Real or psychosomatic, pain is pain.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Green MT Welder View Post
                          It feels like you get a visit from the EVILsandman.
                          That guy from SpiderMan 3? Who would have thought an airline mechanic could go so wrong.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fabricator View Post
                            you should be fine .the "burn" is from ultraviolet light.auto darkening hoods are protected from this in the light stage also,usually to a shade 14 or 15.
                            Ding, ding! Thanks fabricator. Too many other people telling me how I'm going to suffer.

                            Just kidding everyone. I appreciate all input.

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                            • #15
                              Like the others said, most any good quality auto darkening helmet will protect you from the UV and Infared rays even when it is not turned on. (Safety glasses underneath offer further protection )

                              As far as the potato trick, I have never tried, and therefore cannot comment on its effectiveness. However, I have to say that I personally would just go straight to the doctor/emergenc, they will give you some special eye drops to help the pain and reduce the harmful effects.
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