MM140 and the MM180

[Gsd34me]

How much more machine will i be getting with the MM180 over the MM140?

[fun4now]

about the difference between 1/8" and 1/4". the 140 is a nice little 120V MIG, but jumping up to the 180 will give you a lot more heat. the 140 should really stick to .025 wire the 180 could use .030
grant it the 140 will run .030 wire, but its really best with .025
depending on your usage the 180 could well be worth it. if you are just looking to use it around the house for lawn mower repairs and such the 140 will be fine. i have the MM135 and am very happy with it. knowing your limitations is important with these lil MIG's. stick to them and you will get a lot of use out of them with great results.

[84ZMike]

Didn't you get the MM180 last week?

[SavageSunJeep]

I had a MM135 and recently sold it to get the MM180. Why? I work mostly on my Jeep and do a lot of stuff that is 1/4 to 5/16 and the MM135 just couldn't haul the mail in my unskilled hands.

First ask yourself what are you going to do and go from there.

[Broccoli1]

How much more machine will i be getting with the MM180 over the MM140?

40mm more


I thought ya got the MM180 already.

[Gsd34me]

yeah guys i did already get the MM180 but a friend of mine is looking at the MM140 and i'm tryin to compare the 2 for him,He likes mine but he can only afford the smaller machine. ...........Tim

[84ZMike]

What kind of $ does he have...I see you also asked about the HH187.....it's been said and I'll say it again the HH187 is tops in the 180 amp class....and it is one of the best price wise also........how much is the MM140 your buddy is looking @....if nothing else he can get a 110v machine and use yours for the heavier stuff ......the HH187 is all of $75 more than a MM140.....
Mike

[crawler]

Have you friend buy a HH187 from www.toolking.com
The refurb units were $519 shipped last time I checked. They're out of stock for now, but they'll get some more in.

http://www.toolking.com/hobartwelders_500525a.aspx

[fun4now]

yep the HH187 would be an excelent option.

[Laiky]

although many will argue with this, i don't see any good reason to buy a 110v mig unit. I have used a 110v lincoln and it was just frustrating, for a few bucks more you get the 220, and you can weld just about anything you will wan't to considering you're purchasing an entry level unit. With the 110v you will always be compensating in some way to get by with the reduced power. Keep in mind that if 100-200 dollars is what your friend is hung up on, he will be spending alot more on gas, wire, helmet etc. Once he gets the 220 he will have far greater capability for very little extra money.

[crawler]

although many will argue with this, i don't see any good reason to buy a 110v mig unit. I have used a 110v lincoln and it was just frustrating, for a few bucks more you get the 220, and you can weld just about anything you will wan't to considering you're purchasing an entry level unit. With the 110v you will always be compensating in some way to get by with the reduced power. Keep in mind that if 100-200 dollars is what your friend is hung up on, he will be spending alot more on gas, wire, helmet etc. Once he gets the 220 he will have far greater capability for very little extra money.

This is what we try to tell people that are looking to purchase their first welder.

Spend a little extra (not much extra is you buy a refurb HH187) and wire up a 230v circuit. A Millermatic 140 will cost more than a refurb HH187.

110v units are great to have when you have another 230v welder for thicker materials....

[Laiky]

i would love to have a 110v unit for portable jobs but AFTER a mm251/2.

[SavageSunJeep]

I am sure that many folks on here like myself have made the mistake of NOT buying up, thinking well not sure if I will ever use it that much capacity etc etc.

I knew shortly after I bought MM135 that it would not support my requirements. So I sold it and bought the MM180. It helped make me a better welder and I now REALLY enjoy my sport/hobby of Jeep and offroading.

I should have done this several years ago as the money saved by NOT having to "go get it welded" would have paid for the welder.

One factor that weighed in my not getting the MM180 up front was the lack of 220 in the garage. I feared having to pay big $$ to get it. But I came across a electrician who was a stand up guy. When I told him I wanted a dedicated 220 and 110 circuit and where I wanted it was directly behind the outside electric box...he lauged and said give me about 30 min, $50 bucks and be my helper and I will swing by here after my last job this week.

Guess I was lucky in that the "welding corner" of my shop is located right where the electric box sits on the other side of the wall. He had the run the wire approx 8 inches.