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  • Jolly Roger
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    Replace the chain and boomer with a heavy strap and ratchet binder. Problem solved. I am down in New Orleans and as you can imagine I have worked on more than one dump trailer. Why is it always the doors that get messed up? It's because operators don't have to rebuild them after they crunch them.


    I actually set one up that used one pin at the bottom for both doors and the ratchet binder across the middle but cannot remember how I set the pin up. It worked better than any of them.

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  • I Bleed Blue
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    Hey guys here's some food for thought. I've driven a truck for 18 years and those doors can be very nasty with a little weigth pushing agains them. Little own dirt or hot asphalt.

    Sometihng to consider is a dual tailgate system the regular dump tailgate would close firs the the swing doos would close??? Just a thought. and with a little planning it could fold in to the bed when not needed.

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  • tnjind
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    Like I stated in another post I am very new to online posting, I have never added pictures, I realize a pic of this beast is needed. I will try this weekend to get some posted, it will probably take all weekend, Sat. I am going to a gun show for ammo and to an auction, ac/dc stick welder I don't need but will try to buy also a generator I do need.

    Thanks to everone that has suggested all of the different ideas and offers of drawings.
    It sounds like SSS had a very similiar trailer with the gate I am after.

    I will try for pics soon.
    Later,Tim.

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  • HMW
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    SSS Thats how our trailer gate at work is and works fine.

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  • JBFab
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    You could go with the semi latch idea, with a removable top bar (this would require a couple of brackets inside the bed to secure it when hauling loose material) Or you could change it up a little bit, and make the gate one piece, and fashion it to swing in either direction. I did somthing similar to this on a farm once, where the aptly named it the "bi$exual gate". Anyway, you would be able to swing it open to either side, open it like a tailgate, or be able to spread with it using spreader chains or bars. If you need help visualizing, let me know and I will do a quick model of it.

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  • Jim-TX
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    Originally posted by tnjind View Post
    The semi trailer kind idea woudld work if I could utilize a top bar, but I can not.
    Please keep passing ideas, ALL are more than welcome.
    Thanks to all.
    Tim.
    I was thinking about this today. What about a top support that would swing out of the way to haul the skid steer, etc? It would allow you a good solid latch for dirt but when necessary you could move it and have unliimited access. You wouldn't need it when hauling the skid steer or other equipment..... and pigs.

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  • SkidSteerSteve
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    Until it was stolen....don't get me started.....we had a 14yd3 tandem 7Klbs bumper pull dump trailer. Its doors were of a two piece, side hinged variety. In the center, there was an overlapping piece of angle on the back of one door that the other one closed against. They were only pinned by a 1" pin on the bottom of each door into the rear most cross member. As with your set up, we hauled just about anything you could imagine in it. Dirt, rock, concrete, equipment, so on. We used it very regularly and never really had any trouble out of it. Even when material would push up against the doors, it was usually only on the lower half of the doors just due to the mounding effect of material when you load it. After all, if it was dense material, then you couldn't load a whole lot, and if it wasn't, then it might build up, but wouldn't pose too much of a problem. We always kept a small (10"ish long) sledge hammer in the tool box and would on occasion have to "persuade" one of the pins to come up because of lateral pressure on the doors. Just always open it while standing at the side so that the door will shield you somewhat from debris. Like I said, we had it for almost six years and worked the daylights out of it and never really phased it.

    SSS

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  • swamp donkey
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    hey there i hope this might be of some help. Im thinking you might be able to use a 3 door system like the endgates i see on the back of alot of grain trucks. In the first picture is what the back of the box usually looks like. Three doors and two of the doors are hinged together. Where the two doors are hinged together the one on the right stays closed with a latching system similar to what a semi van trailer uses. So with that one closed you can open the middle door to let whatever out and the outer two doors stay closed. Once the stuff is out resonably you can open the two side doors. The middle door has a lip on the left side to seal over the left hand door.
    ( in the drawing the hinges are represented as red blocks, the latches as blue)

    Now i know you said that there cant be top frame work so im thinkin that you could use the semi latching system for the bottom and just leave the top part out of the picture because also on grain trucks there is a somewhat of a gusset as shown in the second picture. Basically all there is, is a pipe welded vertically in the corner of the left and right doors and to somewhere on the side of the box. ( shown as green circles) Then all that is done is a bent bar
    (shown in blue) is placed in these pipes. they are held in with pins (shown in red) And these can be taken in and out whenever you need to open the side doors.

    I hope this idea may help or at least get some creative juices flowing... sorry everyone but i cant get any pictures cause my old mans grain truck is 3 hours away... so i guess the paint pictures will have to do for now
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  • welder_one
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    can you post a pic of the trailer so that we can get a better idea of what you are up against?

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  • tnjind
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    That is an interesting idea, I like automation. That is one of the things I do at my "regular" job. This application would not be feasible for that. Skidsteer,tractor has 2-3" clearance, also gets loaded from the side by alot of people. This trailer is no longer pretty. But it still gets the job done.
    The deck is low to the ground only about 18-24" from the ground. That makes it hard to provide enough swing. I will have to be able to chain the gates to the sides while dumping.
    I have hauled, dumped probably about 200-400 different loads, one day 54 loades of dirt 4-5 tons each, It was close about 1/8 mile. I left the gate off then.
    This trailer truely hauls alot of different things, no kidding.
    The pigs were two pot bellied pigs. Then later the hog for the October hog roast, I shot it in the trailer with the 9mm, just missed the lift cylinder. I didn't think it would pass through the skull. Should have used a .22 but I did not want the hog to suffer. Live and learn.

    I am looking for a simple, reliable, way to lock and open the gate. The semi trailer kind idea woudld work if I could utilize a top bar, but I can not.
    Please keep passing ideas, ALL are more than welcome.
    Thanks to all.
    Tim.

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  • welder_one
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    i thought about this one today. why not use electric screw jacks or hydraulic cylindersmounted inside the bed, at the top of the trailer.running alongside the sides. put a cover over them to keep the "trash" off of the actuators. pin them to the doors, and you would have a way to keep the doors closed, open them with weight on them, not have a frame above for the tractor to be able to be set on the trailer, and best of all, you could open the gates as little or as much as you wanted to. and you could set the controls inside the truck and have another on the trailer, that way you could open the tailgates when "feathering" a load of dirt. i have seen something similar used on off-highway dump trucks. if you think this would be a good idea and would like to get an idea of what i am talking about, ask me and i will draw it up for you.

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  • HMW
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    Maybe if the frame for the 2 doors was heavy, they could be pinned at the top, where they meet and the bottom could be pinned together into the deck of the dump. So the only real stress would be at the top pin holding the gates together at the top. If the top rail and pin mechanism was made out of something pretty stout it would hold them together. I have a dump trailer with a gate the pins either at the top or bottom. One piece gate not a door. Usually dirt is not loaded to the top of the gate so with a little effort the pins might still come out. I have no idea how hard the pigs will be on the new gate

    Take pics of what you end up doing

    We have a dump trailer at work that has doors but its not in the yard at the momemt. I'd take a pic if it was.

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  • theclutch92370
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    You might want to consider making the gat you have multi-function, open from the side or from the top. You have to have a set of pins in the side as hinges for the side opening(One gate). Remove these pins and install them in either top or bottom hinges for ramp or spreader gate. Would take some looking at, but can be done. Good Luck.

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  • tnjind
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    JIM-TX,
    Thanks for the idea, but yeah the upper frame will be in the way of the skidsteer and tractor.

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  • tnjind
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    Chain, binder great idea, hadn't thought of that. But I wonder if it will give enough slack to unhook with dirt,gravel whatever against the doors?

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