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  • #16
    re porosity

    I would say the air flow from your fans or even too much pressure from your gun will cause turbulance coming straight from your nozzle(the turbulance tends to draw in contaminants from the air or an unkept or dusty work area)the only other thing i would have to ask (is your gun solely used for aluminum?I know a friend that changes up metals but neglects to remove the liner,which can also carry contamination.If i were you i wouldnt weld anything until i got your settings dead on perfect because it doesnt matter if you have one or a million pieces to do ,take your time and do them all like it was the only one with your signature on it in aluminum good luck

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    • #17
      yeah, this set-up is used only for aluminum. i use a mm 350p for steel, or stainless. jws, you had mentioned how am i sure about 27 cfh? i use a flow meter that you hold to the nozzle and hit the purge button. the ball rises to tell you what your cfh is at the nozzle. handy little tool when your using bulk gas and machines are being run off of an orifice in the hose not a regulator or flowmeter. there are a couple heavy steel plants in little rock that are set up that way. the foreman will walk by and spot check a couple different machines with it. i dont remember who made the meter, think its esab, but i will try to find it later to post a pic or link...also when i said that pressure gets "lost" in a 30 foot hose, i didnt mean that it should dissapear. when you turn on the water hose the pressure and flow are dispearsed a little per foot of hose. i have a book here at the house that tells me exactly how much per foot and diameter,(someone had a little too much time i guess to come up with that one) it was a study that i did for mechanical engineering course. you are going to lose pressure and flowrate through that much hose and gun, not volume, just pressure and flow. anyway, got to go to work, im gonna be late. talk later
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      • #18
        Change out the employee

        "why, this is what we have always used here. we arent going to go and start changing things around because you want to"I'm shocked she can get away with that one! 'Specially working for Disney!!! I HATE those type of people that don't want to help people better themselves, or help the quality of the job!! I can go on a MAJOR rant over here...see your supervisor. Lot of people use a Argon/Helium mix for thicker aluminum!!! Just works better!!!
        Glad you got it working though, and thanks for the pics and update!!!
        I'm not late...
        I'm just on Hawaiian Time

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        • #19
          Bert,

          I have been thinking the same thing. As I've said in several of my previous posts, when doing consulting, nothing is more frustrating when the response is, "well, we've always done it that way".

          I wonder how much trouble and costly it's going to be if Disney rejects the delivered product. Just seems to me that, considering the numbers involved, that the company would want to use the best "tools" available.

          Back to the gas coverage issue. 27 CFH at the nozzle sounds a little low to me. I'd (personally) rather see the flow at somewhere around 30-40 CFH when using straight Argon.

          Just my .02
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          • #20
            well, we all have do deal with close-minded dummies pretty much on a daily basis, just one of mine happens to be in charge of ordering...lol...i did put on a new flow meter (robbed off of the mm 350p) and i am about 33-35 cfh at the nozzle. the welds were cleaner and i can get back to a good travel pace, thanks. i only have one more week to deliver on these stobs, then the paintline gets to take over. and dfw international airport just put in some plans for a sign that is 14 foot 6 and 863 foot long built in 4 x 12 foot sections and a bottom row of 18 inch by 12 foot panels. it will be mounted together with splice plates to several stobs of i-beam. one pivot and a giant remote control motor. it will be used not only to tell the pilot "your'e about to run outta runway, dude" but also to help control windspeed on the runway. sounds like it might be a little fun. the panels are made of 2x2 squre tube mitered and filled with aluminum honeycomb then 0.80 sheet laminated to both sides. i am going to be busy, very busy for a while...i will post pics of the new pieces before and after paint. once i get a few of them done of course...
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            • #21
              Thanks W1,

              Say...dont Disney engineers do things a little "mickey mouse"?
              hehehehehe
              Will it weld? I loooove electricity!

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