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  • 190MPH
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    The money you spend for a day on an engine dyno is well spent if you are serious about racing. It will wind up costing you exponentially more to try and find a baseline tuneup trying to test at the track. Not only that, but a serious race engine needs time to seat the rings, which on the track takes several runs in a motor like mine. A day on the dyno does this also, so the good bean oil can be put in for the 1st run down the track. You'd be surprised how much HP that is worth. As far as the exploding an engine on the dyno instead of in your car, believe it or not, the dyno is easier on the motor than true race conditions. I guess it's all a matter of your situation and how serious you are, no disrespect intended to anyone into any type of motorsports.

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  • CWB
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    i look at engine dynos as being basically worthless to anybody but professional engine builders like Vic Edelbrock. i prefer to know what my car makes at the wheels because that gives a more accurate idea of what power is being transferred to the ground. realistically the only reason that i see to have an engine dyno is if youre building serious competition or experimental engines that have a good chance of exploding and you dont want them doing so inside your car. thats also the reason most large companies that have these isolated "test cells" also have techs monitor the engines through several layers of bullet resistant glass and cover major portions of the engines with scatter shields. generally these "test cells" are also humidity and temperature controlled with no need for any sort of "correction factor." the SAE (not ASE) has a standard humidity and temperature that dictate how automakers test engines and report their hp. personally i've been tempted to bid on a few chassis dynos ive seen around but not sure i can justify the expense yet...lil too much for a toy. for now i'll stick to paying $100 anytime i get curious

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  • Badd00SS
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    Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
    Very interesting...where are you located?
    My friends shop is in Deer Park, NY but he is moving soon further out east on the island....

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  • FusionKing
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    Originally posted by Badd00SS View Post
    Incorrect, it's a 2,000 hp, 225 mph capable unit. Mustang 1100 SE

    "Home :: Dyno Services/Tuning

    Dyno Services/Tuning


    Dyno tuning is available with our in house Mustang 1100 SE dynamometer. Our unit is rated up to 2000 hp and 225 mph. The eddy current unit simulates real world loads found on the street or at the track. Not only can our dyno be used for tuning but also driveability and diagnostic testing, 0-60mph testing, and ¼ mile drag strip passes.

    Dyno Services Pricing:
    Power Pulls (2) with A/F monitoring $70
    Power Pulls (3) with A/F monitoring $90
    ¼ Pass (2) with A/F Monitoring $85
    ¼ Pass (3) with A/F Monitoring $105
    0 - 60 MPH (2) $45
    0 - 60 MPH (3) $60
    Hour Rental with operator $200

    Are you and a group of friends interested in getting together to see who will drop the biggest number on the dyno? Contact us for our discounted pricing on group (minimum 10 cars) dyno days and see who can drop the bomb.

    Tuning Pricing:

    Basic Bolt on Tune: $350"

    Very interesting...where are you located?

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  • 190MPH
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    Gotta be 1530 minimum(class is 4.5 lbs/c.i., wedge head motors only), usually cross the scales @ 1540 with me in it.

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  • Badd00SS
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    Originally posted by 190MPH View Post
    NHRA Comp Elim C/D, 6.87 @ 195 best. 340" chevy/buick with split dominators on gas, just shy of 900 HP on the pump.
    Nice, **** im slow Im only in the 10's.... Whats it weigh?

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  • 190MPH
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    NHRA Comp Elim C/D, 6.87 @ 195 best. 340" chevy/buick with split dominators on gas, just shy of 900 HP on the pump.

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  • Badd00SS
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    Originally posted by 190MPH View Post
    I'm talking about strictly an engine dyno and associated room,etc. I know that 30-35 HP gains me about .08-.10 on the track.
    Well yeah, with ventilation, soundproofing, etc, all in sure $100k sounds right...

    Whatcha driving, btw?

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  • 190MPH
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    I'm talking about strictly an engine dyno and associated room,etc. I know that 30-35 HP gains me about .08-.10 on the track.

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  • Badd00SS
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    Originally posted by Bryan L View Post
    I don't know of a Million $ dyno, but what i do know is that Dyno's that can handle >1000hp are VERY expensive. Not a Million expensive but allot more than 34k. I would venture a guess of 200k for a large HP "rolling road"

    I think your "plan" is sketchy to say the least. If you want to test your HP and torque I recommend making an appointment with a performance shop. Better yet look into a local club in your area and inquire about dyno days. Most high performance shops will give a really good deal to clubs and the members can save a few bucks doing a couple pulls. Lets face it, if you put money into a vehicle why not spend another couple hundred to lay down some numbers?

    I heard a really good definition of HP, torque, over steer and under steer.

    Over steer: you bounce off the inside wall
    Under steer: you smash your tail lights on the outside wall
    HP: how fast you hit the wall
    Torque: how far you travel when you go through the wall
    Incorrect, it's a 2,000 hp, 225 mph capable unit. Mustang 1100 SE

    "Home :: Dyno Services/Tuning

    Dyno Services/Tuning


    Dyno tuning is available with our in house Mustang 1100 SE dynamometer. Our unit is rated up to 2000 hp and 225 mph. The eddy current unit simulates real world loads found on the street or at the track. Not only can our dyno be used for tuning but also driveability and diagnostic testing, 0-60mph testing, and ¼ mile drag strip passes.

    Dyno Services Pricing:
    Power Pulls (2) with A/F monitoring $70
    Power Pulls (3) with A/F monitoring $90
    ¼ Pass (2) with A/F Monitoring $85
    ¼ Pass (3) with A/F Monitoring $105
    0 - 60 MPH (2) $45
    0 - 60 MPH (3) $60
    Hour Rental with operator $200

    Are you and a group of friends interested in getting together to see who will drop the biggest number on the dyno? Contact us for our discounted pricing on group (minimum 10 cars) dyno days and see who can drop the bomb.

    Tuning Pricing:

    Basic Bolt on Tune: $350"

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  • beezaadict
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    Originally posted by Bryan L View Post
    I don't know of a Million $ dyno, but what i do know is that Dyno's that can handle >1000hp are VERY expensive. Not a Million expensive but allot more than 34k. I would venture a guess of 200k for a large HP "rolling road"

    I think your "plan" is sketchy to say the least. If you want to test your HP and torque I recommend making an appointment with a performance shop. Better yet look into a local club in your area and inquire about dyno days. Most high performance shops will give a really good deal to clubs and the members can save a few bucks doing a couple pulls. Lets face it, if you put money into a vehicle why not spend another couple hundred to lay down some numbers?

    I heard a really good definition of HP, torque, over steer and under steer.

    Over steer: you bounce off the inside wall
    Under steer: you smash your tail lights on the outside wall
    HP: how fast you hit the wall
    Torque: how far you travel when you go through the wall


    the mustang will handle 1k horse and yes you can find many different high HP and AWD dynos in the 30k range including maha,dynojet etc,sorry but your ventured guess is off.

    at my previous shop our maha was 25k used


    http://iowacity.craigslist.org/tls/916472948.html as an example a high HP dyno under 30k
    Last edited by beezaadict; 11-26-2008, 02:30 AM.

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  • Bryan L
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    I don't know of a Million $ dyno, but what i do know is that Dyno's that can handle >1000hp are VERY expensive. Not a Million expensive but allot more than 34k. I would venture a guess of 200k for a large HP "rolling road"

    I think your "plan" is sketchy to say the least. If you want to test your HP and torque I recommend making an appointment with a performance shop. Better yet look into a local club in your area and inquire about dyno days. Most high performance shops will give a really good deal to clubs and the members can save a few bucks doing a couple pulls. Lets face it, if you put money into a vehicle why not spend another couple hundred to lay down some numbers?

    I heard a really good definition of HP, torque, over steer and under steer.

    Over steer: you bounce off the inside wall
    Under steer: you smash your tail lights on the outside wall
    HP: how fast you hit the wall
    Torque: how far you travel when you go through the wall

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  • TS-Off-Road
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    HaHa!

    One Meeeeeeeellion dollars!

    That'd be on heIIuva dyno, for sure!

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  • Badd00SS
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    Originally posted by 190MPH View Post
    I was not implying that someone go out and buy a dyno, which costs no where near a million dollars but probably more around 100k. I was saying that it would be cheaper and less of a hassle to go and "rent" engine dyno time by the day. I generally do this once a year at a cost of about $500 for the day, and if things go well, you usually don't need a full day. Going back to your weather vs. HP comparison, I can say that based on my experience on the dyno and at the track, vapor pressure(or grains of water) has the most bearing on horsepower. The humidity may be the same for 2 different vapor pressure readings, but the lower VP reading will make more power.
    LOL, My friend bought a new mustang dyno for his shop, in total, it cost $34,000. And it is safe, easy to use, and ive been on the rollers a couple times. Engine dyno's are far less to my knowledge.

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  • 190MPH
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    I was not implying that someone go out and buy a dyno, which costs no where near a million dollars but probably more around 100k. I was saying that it would be cheaper and less of a hassle to go and "rent" engine dyno time by the day. I generally do this once a year at a cost of about $500 for the day, and if things go well, you usually don't need a full day. Going back to your weather vs. HP comparison, I can say that based on my experience on the dyno and at the track, vapor pressure(or grains of water) has the most bearing on horsepower. The humidity may be the same for 2 different vapor pressure readings, but the lower VP reading will make more power.

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