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  • fun4now
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    i live in a trailor so almost any adition is bigger than the house it s atached too.
    i added a room on for my first son when we moved in, now with our 2nd son turned 2 he needs his own room also. so i need to add one for him now.

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  • weld_13
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    like what was said look on craigs list. it kinda depends on where ur at how much scrap u can get. most of the scrap ive picked up has been angle iron. thats pratically all i learned to weld on. just dont find an old beat up camaro cause its not worth it .

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  • weld_13
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    Originally posted by fun4now View Post
    naa its an old pic, but if i dont get another room built onto the house by winter for the lil one to have a room i may well be in the dog house.
    be shure to make the addition out of metal with lots of pics . additions to a house arent bad as long as their not the same size of the existing house . we did that and added on 1,500 square feet the addition was mostly our 3 car garage .

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  • fun4now
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    fun4now,
    outrageous shop! I'm so HAPPY for you!!! I see you're still sleeping in that tent

    naa its an old pic, but if i dont get another room built onto the house by winter for the lil one to have a room i may well be in the dog house.

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  • Bert
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    Go on craigs list and put in an ad looking for free scrap iron. Lot of people probably have stuff that they want to get rid of that might be perfect for you!

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  • Bert
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    Go to any large weld shops and explain who you are and your intentions. Lot of times they get rid of lots of scrap under a foot.
    After awhile, even THEY gotta clean up their shop sometime!!! Lot of scrap on the side of the road before rubbish day. Metal shops have a scrap bin that was mentioned earlier, and I also buy my stuff from the recyle places. I don't know in your area if you can got to the dump and they let you pick up pieces from there or not. Once your friends know that you are looking for junk metal, you might have more than what you want Also, check for places that build boats and trailers, LOTS of scrap there! I guess that goes for anyone who builds things out of metal.....
    good luck, and don't worry 'bout the perfect size coupons!

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  • Bert
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    fun4now,
    outrageous shop! I'm so HAPPY for you!!! I see you're still sleeping in that tent

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  • fun4now
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    gotta love the dive. only thing i had to pay for on this hole thing was sone welding wire (flux core), a few boxes of screws and a few bags of cement.
    now i got a 2story 22'X20' shop. its amazing what some people will throw out.
    ok so its not a perfect shop and it still needs a lil more work, but hay for the price its great. and i dont have to work on my truck in the rain anymore.
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  • lens42
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    Since I've been learning welding at home, I walk and drive around with an eye out for potential scrap in dumpsters and other locations. Places you've driven by a 100 times and not noticed suddenly become gold mines. Bed frames, rebar cutoffs, busted office chairs, etc. are all great to practice on. Just remember to use judgment and ask the smaller places if it's OK to dumpster dive. If it's a big commercial business like Home Depot, I don't bother asking because I don't mind getting told to leave (though it's never happened) and it would be too much trouble to find who to ask anyway. But for smaller businesses I try to ask because they might get more upset. If you keep an eye out, you'll soon find more than you can can stash.

    Another technique is to pick the best metal supplier in your area (that doesn't mind dealing with hobbyists) and spend a few bucks there a few times. You don't need to spend a lot because the guys working the floor don't really care how much you spend (their not on commission), but once they recognize you, you'll feel more comfortable about asking to rummage in the recycle bin. Half the time they let me do that for free after I've spend $20 or so.

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  • weld_13
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    true. didnt think about smoke. hope u enjoy ur new soon to be new welder

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  • fun4now
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    because it considerably easyer to see whats going on without all the smoke and slag. nothing wrong with lerning with flux if its all you got, but if you just bought a new HH187 why do it the hard way.

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  • weld_13
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    Originally posted by fun4now View Post
    did you figure in a tank of C-25 or Co2?? you will want that right away, you can use flux core wire but it would be better to lern using solid wire and gas.
    why would u say that ? not that its bad to start with solid core just wonderin cause i thought it helped me to learn on my piece of junk wire feed with flux core before i got spoiled on the solid core.

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  • dedfish
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    Thanks for the suggestion on renting. I'll check into that. I'm sure I won't go through a ton of gas to begin with, but it would be nice to figure out how much I will go through to get an idea of what to buy.

    Thanks
    Jason

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  • fun4now
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    i rented for a few years at $53 a year, then got a few tanks. owned or rented they should still swop out the tank, you guys should ask why you cant swop out owned tanks. yea you may get some ugly tanks but as you said do a cover like i do and its all good. i would defenetly go with the 80cft over the 40. you will get twice the gas for the same $$ thats a no brainer, especily when lerning and playing all th time.
    Co2 tanks are about 1/2 the price and fill cheaper and last about 8X as long by tanks size. so keep that in mind as a starter option.
    i recently wenyt to Co2 for my MIG so i could use the 80&125 tanks for strait argon for my TIG. the Co2 dose just as nice a job as the C-25 i think. i have not had any isues with it that make me think i want to go back to C-25 and i have used it on a thin as 20 gage. so i'll be sticking with Co2 as i now have 2 tanks of Co2 and 2 for argon for TIG.
    just some thing to think about.

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  • alha
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    I just got my tanks last week, bought em, 300 cf buggers, O2, Acy and argon. Got them from Airgas for $275 each, and 1/2 price on the 1st fill I went with the big boys, because it will be a PITA to get them out of my shop and down to Airgas or Toll (a LWS), and figured the price wasn't all that much different, and they will hopefully last me a while. I bought em, but they still swap them out each time. I get to pick the tanks when I get refills, so I tried to get nicer ones, but more important to me was the last hydro, I made sure they were from this year in case I don't go thru as much gas as I thought, I would be able to avoid paying for one the next time I exchanged it. just my 2ยข

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