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  • JTMcC
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    I have used the makita, millwaulkee and dewalt. I have a good friend in the welding business that's used the ones I haven't so I have a pretty good, real world base of experience to work from. And I'm talking about heavy commercial use, not garage use and this is my take:

    I've got a makita, I think it has the best base by far and the best angle adjusment by far. And the 12" blade cuts more square with less deflection than the larger blades.

    I know of dewalt saws that have been in serious industrial use (many days running all day for weeks at a time) for over three years now, the old dogs are battered and abused but still chugging away just fine. But I really hate to have to get an allen wrench and loosen two bolts to adjust to a different angle of cut. The makita has one lever that realeases/locks the backstop.

    My makita only gets used every couple of years, but when we use it we make thousands of cuts, it's well over twenty thousand cuts and works like new. And no, I don't stand there and count the cuts made, but when we quote the job we have a pretty good number for the number of cuts required ; )
    Of all the tools we've ever bought, this one has made us a great return on investment.

    Any of them will do the work, the makita is more of a pleasure to use just because it reeks of high quality.

    JTMcC.

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  • 35mastr
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    All my power and framing tools are Dewalt.But when it came down to the metal cut off saw I opted for the Makita LC-1230.It has a carbide blade that is for metal.It is not a multi cutter like the Dewalts.It will cut through a piece of 2x3 3/16 wall tubing as if it was cutting through a stick of butter.Twenty seconds or less and the cuts are true and cool to the touch.

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  • monte55
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    I find it odd when someone can comment about a product without ....first getting their facts straight. Who here has tried every brand to make a judgement. I've used many tools in my life and can't say which is best. If I use a tool and it doesn't perform well and I'm using it correctly, then I can make a judgement. My POS Dewalt Multicutter does what I expect of it. As long as my POS cuts my metal as I want, I have no reason to go and try other saws. If you're are a testing lab and have controlled tests and some don't pass muster........please report it. If not.........then don't bash without
    facts. I'll put this bit of info with the "overweight person" that has tried every
    diet plan on the planet(yeah shure) and doesn't get results till this new one
    came out. Camel Cookies. Monkey Muffins. Doggy Doo. Horse Hockey. Cow Pies. Catch my drift? How about this........new concept........compare apples
    to apples. Ok...rant over......BUT....don't expect others to take your evaluation as gospel. I will not..........Maybe I just had a bad day

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  • benny365
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    I'm glad I asked, I didn't realize that all of the big manufactures made dry saws.

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  • LA Weld
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    Here is the correct Dewalt.
    http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...?categoryID=88

    The Milwaukee was not produced at the time I purchased my DeWalt. I agree with Ace as the table is cheap on the DW and I have even replaced mine twice. I would have jumped on the Milwaukee if it was around when I jumped.

    I did look at the Evoloution units at FabTech and they were a nice machines, if I got a good deal I would not hesitate.

    I cannot comment on Makita as I only own one Makita and it is a cordless dry cut that has done ok but would like new batteries.

    Good luck on your choice

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  • Laiky
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    Not even close!
    They are talking about dry cut saws, with carbide blades, not abrasives.

    My Milwaukee turns 1500 RPM or thereabout.

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  • benny365
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    Originally posted by ace4059 View Post
    huh, thats funny, because we are talking about the same saw, only the makita spins at 1200 rpms and the dewalt 1300 rpms and milwaukee spin at 1500rpms.
    This dewalt spins at 3800 RPM

    http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...roductID=10604


    this Makita spins at 3800 RPM

    http://www2.northerntool.com/power-t...em-1591721.htm


    This Milwaukee Spins at 3900 RPM

    http://www2.northerntool.com/power-t...tem-110862.htm






    Are we talking about the same saws?

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  • ace4059
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    Originally posted by benny365 View Post

    Does anyone here have a saw by Evolution?

    Later
    No sorry but I dont know anyone with the evolution saw.


    Originally posted by benny365 View Post
    What I like about the evolution is that is spins at 1400 rpm instead of 3 or 4 thousand.. and I like the idea of cutting metal rather than grinding metal.
    huh, thats funny, because we are talking about the same saw, only the makita spins at 1200 rpms and the dewalt 1300 rpms and milwaukee spin at 1500rpms.

    Originally posted by benny365 View Post
    Are you guys done?
    I guess. You wanted to know about a dry cut saw (not a cold saw) and I told you which one is supieor so you wouldnt make a mistake and buy an inferior product. But then again, dont listen to what I have to say becasue I must not know what the **** I am talking about and the hours of research means nothing. I am not here to push a brand, only the better saw.
    One example of this is I have 13 angle grinders. All dewalt. A friend has milwaukee angle grinders, and brought one over for me to use. I can tell you that the milwaukee is made better than my dewalts and the next ones I buy might be milwaukee. From all the articles and threads that I have read, Metabo is the best angle grinder (And when my dewalts crap out I am going to try a metabo and see how I like it compaired to milwaukee). So if some one wants to know about an angle grinder, Ill inform them that I personally think from what I have read that the metabo is the best one for the money.

    Honestly I could care less which one you buy, Its your money.



    Edit Here is an email from Alan at tricktools (van santent) Ryan, thanks for your email. Evolution just recently introduced the RAGE and FURY lines of equipment. The 380 Raptor is part of the high-end STEEL line of machines which offer a 5 yr warranty, and are industrial rated. They have a 2200 watt motor. The RAGE is a 2000 watt motor with a 3 year warranty. The RAGE is considered more of a multi-purpose saw.

    The Jancy units are comparable to the Evolution STEEL series, they are the industrial versions. Mostly just brand name preference as you mentioned!

    Alan Geetings
    Sales Manager
    Van Sant Enterprises, Inc.
    641-628-3860 ext 108
    www.tricktools.com"

    Also if you watch the youtube videos of the rage 2 it show it is a multi purpose saw cutting wood with metal nails in it.
    Last edited by ace4059; 10-01-2008, 12:11 PM.

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  • benny365
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    Are you guys done?

    What I like about the evolution is that is spins at 1400 rpm instead of 3 or 4 thousand.. and I like the idea of cutting metal rather than grinding metal.

    Does anyone here have a saw by Evolution?

    Later

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  • ace4059
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    let me know when it craps out.

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  • DDA52
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    Strange...my DeWalt has been flawless except for operator error for the last several years. I would say my 10,000 or so cuts would disagree with your research. Could it be better? Yes. Is it a POS? **** NO.

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  • ace4059
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    Originally posted by monte55 View Post
    Why do you call the Dewalt a POS. I have one and it seems to work fine.
    What do you base your statement on?
    It is very cheap built. The base is stamped steel not the heavy cast. The guard is plastic and the motor is over rated and needs to be built better. the swivel vise needs to tighten up better because it you are cutting and the piece gets loose then, you will be sweeping up broken teeth. The blade is also not the best, but it works ok. On the dewalt and milwaukee, the blades are for cutting metal but the design (teeth shape) is based on a regular blade. Look and the design of the makita blades and the freud diablo blades. They are better designed and will last longer.

    Yes all these saws will work but from all the research that I have done, comparisons, use, and demos that I have seen, the makita is my first choice, followed by the milwaukee.

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  • monte55
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    Originally posted by ace4059 View Post
    the rage 2 is an old saw, I would get the newer rage 3 if I was going to buy evolution brand saw.( but I think these saws are cheaper made and for a little more you can get alot better quality)

    But if I was going to buy a dry cut saw, my first choice would be the 12" makita (it is the sturdest made, best design, and heavy duty) the only draw back is the 12" blade but is is better made. and If I had to have the 14" blade them I would get the Milwaukee (it is still a very good saw, just the makita has a little better vise and handle) . But stay away from the dewalt multicutter. It is cheap made and is a POS.
    The blade on the makita is the best.
    Why do you call the Dewalt a POS. I have one and it seems to work fine.
    What do you base your statement on?

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  • uhohjim
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    I've got an Eviolution Raptor and lemme tell yuh It works awesome ........using it to cut square tubing and it goes through almost like butter..........I've heard a ton of pros & cons about these saws but from my experience it works awesome.. Just my 2cents Jim

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  • ace4059
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    the rage 2 is an old saw, I would get the newer rage 3 if I was going to buy evolution brand saw.( but I think these saws are cheaper made and for a little more you can get alot better quality)

    But if I was going to buy a dry cut saw, my first choice would be the 12" makita (it is the sturdest made, best design, and heavy duty) the only draw back is the 12" blade but is is better made. and If I had to have the 14" blade them I would get the Milwaukee (it is still a very good saw, just the makita has a little better vise and handle) . But stay away from the dewalt multicutter. It is cheap made and is a POS.
    The blade on the makita is the best.

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