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  • MTBob
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    For what it's worth, I thought I'd throw in a couple of photos of a Evolution saw stand I built. The wing is pretty handy: it folds down, has a pull out extension and I've mounted a ruler on it for approximate dimensions. The 3/4" plate on the bottom keeps the table from tipping and the handles pull out for moving. One of the feet is adjustable to accommodate irregularities in the concrete floor. I've had the saw about two years and have just put on my 3rd blade (72 tooth). Great saw, expensive blades. Note the chip deflector on the right side of the blade, it sure minimizes chips flying every where.





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  • TigR
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    Cool illustration, I'll have to check one out. I returned my Evo Rage II and I'm in the market for another chopper.

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  • captain bondo
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    I have the Makita LC-1230 and I absolutely love it. It is a beast.

    I cut lots and lots of stainless tube and it is FAST and ACCURATE. The only downside is it is LOUD.

    I have tried a few different blades, and the new ones my by Lenox are the best I have tried, even compared to the Makita blade which is quite good.

    If you have one of these saws and are looking at blades in person, you cna tell almost right away if the blade is good or not based on how big the carbides are.

    Big carbides means more sharpenings and more heat resistance which is very important.

    The other thing to keep in mind if that these saws want to cut fast, you need to push them a bit or you will just cook the blade, they need to be making chips as the chips are what evacuate the heat in the cut. It takes some practice but man these saws are excellent.

    I only ever use my bandsaw for really awkward stuff now. The Makita is easily 4x faster on average.

    EDIT: here is a video I made of me cutting a stainless steel pipe for a header collector- I actually went a little too slow in this video, for reference.

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  • MTBob
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    I purchased a Evolution 355 about two years ago, 14" blade. Love it. It does what I expect of it, cuts stuff very well. The fence is fairly tough and adjustable. Even tough the base is pressed metal, the saw seems to be well built. I have no idea whether it's built better than other machines, but it's good enough for my hobby shop use.

    Here's my bottom line:
    Pro's: cuts great when blade is sharp, fast, convenient, handles fairly large stock (I've cut up to 4" pipe)

    Con's: eats blades (I'm on my 3rd blade about $100-120 each, 72 tooth), really really noisy, got to be very careful about pushing the blade too hard, or hitting the teeth inadvertently, cutting hard materials (1144) will wreck the blade quickly.

    I'd like to have a good quality horizontal bandsaw, but don't want to give up shop floor space. I'll stay with the Evolution, though I'd say, due to blade consumption, it's not the least cost cutoff solution.

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  • TMG
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    I have the evolution 230HDX and love it. I use a bandsaw for most stick materials in my shop, but the circ is great for plate and large angle or channel. For field work the circ is hard to beat. As long as I keep a slow steady feed rate blades last pretty darn long. The blades do get trashed eventually, but the time saved is well worth it to me. I am trying to find a way to afford the 14" chop saw version.

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  • TigR
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    I just got the Rage II 14 incher and am getting ready to take it back (if they let me). I pulled it out of the box to use yesterday to cut some square tubing. It cuts through the metal just fine and rather smooth, however when you take a look at the edge after cutting you will see a jagged look, I'm sure it's just how the blade cuts, but it's basically not smooth and thus is not true in the way it cuts, basically you can see the chipping marks left over on whatever you're cutting.

    Anyway, I could settle for that but the saw actually gets hung up on the rear lever. So basically the up and down motion (when I bring the saw blade down) is sticky or gets hung up. Some type of misalignment. The lever (which looks rather flimsy) rubs against the round blade cover and gets hungup on the way down. I have to jerk it for it to get passed it.

    Maybe this is just on my tool, somekind of freak incident but, I think it lends itself to poor design, so, I hope to take a return (Sears) and I'll move on to a Milwaukee or something.

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  • Badd00SS
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    I like the milwaulkee I used once, seemed well made, and cut well. I am a bandsaw man though, I like to set my cut, walk away and do something else, come back to a finished cut.

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  • Rubiconmike
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    I have a cast base Milwaukee. abrasive saws like this are good rebar and general hacking a way at metal.
    iIf your going to want to cut pices consistantly
    get a Horizontle bansaw with coolant.
    Even elcheepo china one will be you're new most
    favord tool in the shop.

    Mine has over 10" jaw
    45Degree and all that.
    $500 can.

    The milwaukee cost $300.00 a bunch of years ago.
    We used to pay alot more for tools and stuff. Not any more though.

    But of corse if it has to be mobile than a chop saw is the way to go.

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  • DDA52
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    Ummm...I'd have to see a Metabo beaten by a HF to believe it. I've been using a 5" Metabo since '89 and it is still as strong now as it was new. They make stuff that is light years above chicom crap.

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  • ace4059
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    here is the rage 3 in action.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnopNPgd-80

    James, I am surprised you dont like you metabo grinder
    Last edited by ace4059; 10-03-2008, 12:09 AM.

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  • uhohjim
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    Originally posted by benny365 View Post
    I apologize Jim.

    I went ahead and got the Rage 2 for 225.00 from airgas locally. Cut a few pieces and it does a good job. Money was an issue for me so the price was a deciding factor. Anyways Thanks for all of the input Guys.

    Ben
    No problem Ben.........sorry for the short reply there,,,,,4 month old twins can have an effect on your lack of sleeping habits......hope that saw works as good for you as my Raptor 380 works for me Jim

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  • StillBoostin
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    Now if they only made a dry cut saw like the wood cutting miter saw. They Do! Evolution Steel 3, Rage 3, and Fury 3.

    The Steel 3 is a metal only 10" TCT Steel Cutting Circular Miter Saw.
    No link however I got Evolution booklet at my LWS.

    The others are 10" and 8 1/4" TCT Multipurpose Compound Miter S.A.W.

    http://www.evolutiononlineshop.com/s...%203%20%20Saw/

    http://www.evolutiononlineshop.com/s...ury%203%20Saw/

    I want a dry cut saw, but I'm going to buy a millwaulkee porta-band saw first. Then a Harbor Freight 7"x12" or 4"x6" Band Saw. Then either the Steel 3 10" Steel Cutting Circular Miter Saw or the Steel 2 15" TCT Steel Cutting Circular Chop Saw.
    http://www.evolutiononlineshop.com/s...eel%20Saw%202/

    You have to set goal, and put them in order.

    I use the Metabo angle grinder. It's OK. Slow to start up and get going(might be that it has been used and abused). Doesn't spin like the high RPM and torque of my HF grinder though. Just to help you out a little ACE.

    James

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  • ridesideways
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    the dewalt dry cut saw does cut fine, but it is harder to set up accurately because the base is just stamped sheet metal with a very inaccurate degree gauge for setting a perfect 90* angle, and the clamping arm tends to change the angle slightly if you're not careful. the point is that if you want it to be accurate, you have fuss with it a bit.

    i currently own the dewalt, but if i had it to buy over again i would pick the makita or milwaukee.

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  • benny365
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    Originally posted by uhohjim View Post
    I believe I said I have one But apparently you were to busy moderating ....Oh well mine still works great Jim

    I apologize Jim.

    I went ahead and got the Rage 2 for 225.00 from airgas locally. Cut a few pieces and it does a good job. Money was an issue for me so the price was a deciding factor. Anyways Thanks for all of the input Guys.

    Ben

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  • uhohjim
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    Originally posted by benny365 View Post
    Are you guys done?

    What I like about the evolution is that is spins at 1400 rpm instead of 3 or 4 thousand.. and I like the idea of cutting metal rather than grinding metal.

    Does anyone here have a saw by Evolution?

    Later
    I believe I said I have one But apparently you were to busy moderating ....Oh well mine still works great Jim

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