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  • Winger Ed.
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    I've got a HF at home & a two hundred & sixty some-odd dollar Radner in the shop. I like and use them both. The 'cheapie' is a little lighter and more comfortable, but the overall picture or vision in the Radner is a little better.

    Something I've heard from other folks is that the cheapies are more fragile, and can't be dropped as many times, or from as high as the expensive ones without breaking.

    The only time I've ever been flashed by either is when the photocell (above the lens) can't 'see' the arc. This happens when I'm up in a tight spot or welding something inside of a cramped space, and the photocell is above or pushed up against a solid object I'm trying to look under.

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  • Bert
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    Homeschoolweldor,
    hey, sorry if I missed something, I'm in the process of changing jobs and haven't been on the forum for awhile. I thought you were welding at school? If not, what are you up to now?
    Again, ditto fun4now,
    Happy belated birthday

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  • fun4now
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    congrats on the new hood, the optrel is well spoken for by many so you should be happy with it.
    happy B-Day.

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  • Homeschoolweldor
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    I actually got it today for my b-day. It fits on me better than the flip front that came with my small MIG and looks like it will last me for a while. (I only get to weld on weekends and only for a couple hours at best )

    Thanks all for your replys

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  • fun4now
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    Homeschoolweldor
    as a seldom welder its probly fine for now but i would still look at maybe upgrading in the future if your use increases. my father has 2 of them and said he only gets flashed every once in a wile.


    yorkiepap
    not ment as a shot at you sorry if you took it that way.

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  • yorkiepap
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    Cheap helmets...

    Hey fun4now,
    To respond to your first sentence:
    Yes, the "cheapo"(as defined here) helmets are a consumable to me. My eyes are the most precious part of my body and I never jeopardize them in any way. I have 2 Nexgen's I use religiously, but the HF and Northern Tool units have worked very well and have not caused me any problem....in function or full eye protection. I'm in my 43rd year of welding and still welding without problems because I do take care of my eyes. I agree there are garbage items on the market, and we all have the choice to use them or not. I don't feel these 2 (Hf & NT) are garbage. I had 2 Miller helmets that didn't last a year and a half, tossed them and went to Nexgen. "Cheapo" products are the result of our demand for "cheapo" products....like it or not....Denny

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  • Homeschoolweldor
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    Thanks for all the replies.

    I only get to weld like 2-3 times a month so i thought this one would work. All the reviews on the site were good except one so I thought it couldn't be that bad. But today is my birthday and i did ask for an optrel so maybe i'll get one

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  • HMW
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    Originally posted by jfsmith View Post
    I have an HF auto darkening bucket, I also have a Fibre Metal that I like. I use the Fibre Metal one more than the HF one. I have several lenses for the Fibre Metal helmet and a set of the bifocals for it.

    I wish I had a positive air flow welding helmet. You have one set of eyes and one set of lungs.

    They can replace the lungs these days, but it will hurt.

    Jerry
    Man, lung replacement can't be good. Your right I do forget about the air I breathe sometimes.

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  • sjmiller
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    Cheap is, ... well cheap

    Let's all be flat out honest on this matter, I always side on caution and protection. I started out with a cheap hood, and didn't like it. I then bought my first cheap Auto hood, and didn't like it. I finally bought a hood I thought I would like - and do (Optel). Cheap first hood = $45, second auto hood = $125, Optel hood = $240. If you add up the progressive costs - $410, I would have been better off spending the $240 in the first place.

    You only have two eyes - loss of vision in one or both is worth what?

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  • jfsmith
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    I have an HF auto darkening bucket, I also have a Fibre Metal that I like. I use the Fibre Metal one more than the HF one. I have several lenses for the Fibre Metal helmet and a set of the bifocals for it.

    I wish I had a positive air flow welding helmet. You have one set of eyes and one set of lungs.

    They can replace the lungs these days, but it will hurt.

    Jerry

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  • fun4now
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    They are reasonably priced and if one goes bad, I'll toss it and get another...
    thats the problem with too many people today, we are getting used to getting cheap crap and judt figure its ok for it to break, i'll just get another one. thats why we have soo much cheap crap out there. what ever happend to buying quality once and expecting it to last.
    i got a Miller BWE about 6 years ago. i use it inside and outside. i use it for MIG,TIG,Stick and plasma cutting. it has never failed me. i would never consider trusting my eyes to a cheapo hood. how many flashes are ok ???? i say none. get a good hood.
    get a good one and demand it to last, you only have one set of eyes keep them safe.

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  • cajuncat
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    I been having having a sellstrom for about the last 17 years and can't complain.About 10 years ago i bought a speedlens for it and wondered how I did without it.Just recently I bought the miller 29 roadster elite series and I really enjoy it.Auto-darken shields are the way to go.

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  • Bmxin^Bjorn
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    i agree with dabar on this one the jackson hoods are the best around
    they stand up to almost anything and are pretty cheap too.
    i have a bwe and it is ausome, i had it at the hitch shop for a few weeks and if i wasent watching it 24/7 it would have been distroyed by others not being careful. i think we have run over like 4 welding masks this year driving on and off the hoists... also in construction would you want to drop you miller autodark$$$$$ or you jackson$ 4 storys?..

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  • Bareback Jack
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    My dad bought me a HF auto hood years ago and I used it allot. When I started welding full time it broke down in no time! It was ok for occational use, but just couldn't handle hard working conditions. I replaced it with a Miller Elite and I can't beleive the difference. I was missing out! Now, if you are just the occational welder (2 times a month) the cheapy will probably work. If you are going to see allot of hood time, then I'd spring for the better hood. Your eyes are precious, treat them with care! I do notice a difference with my eyes when comparing the two hoods. The cheapy left a "red dot" in my vision for quite a while if I was under hood very long. The new hood greatly reduced this vision imparment. Good luck!

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  • yorkiepap
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    Welding Helmets....

    Hey Homeschool,
    That helmet is a good one. I have one and have used it 12-20hrs/week for the last year and a half without any problems. It has a fast react time, sens. & delay settings, and is quite comfortable...for me. I also have 2 of the HF Blue Flame helmets that have the same specs. as this one. I believe they are made by the same company as the electronics are identical. They have been reliable and the shading adjustment works very well as I like #10 setting for MIG & #11 for TIG. They are reasonably priced and if one goes bad, I'll toss it and get another...to me they are a consumable......Denny

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