Originally posted by Darmik
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railroad track weldability?
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having spent considerable time i the rail weld shop here in Nashville i can share this much. They butt weld ( resistance) 88 ft sections to make 1/4 mile lengths that are either resistance welded by machine in the field or thermite welded.
track comes in numerous grades. the best quality rail comes from japan.
the head ( thick section at top ) comes in varying degrees of hardness and
how much is hardened, some the whole head is hardened some just the top surface 1/2" deep
the better quality rail is used in the turns and at switches and crossings.
legally all R.R. rail is property of a rail line and none is commercially available even in scrap yards. likely what you can find is crane rail. which is the same but different.
If you show up at a scrap yard with sections of railroad track the FBI will come to see you.
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Originally posted by ctrhenry View PostIf you show up at a scrap yard with sections of railroad track the FBI will come to see you.
Seriously tho if I HAD RR rail I would not be dumb enuff to SCRAP them!!
BTW 88 ft!!! I would love to bring them to the scrapper just to see everyones reactions (except the FBI)
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watching them buttwelded together using 12 volts and 20k amps is amazing.
makes a heck of a flash around the weld when it shoves them together.
the cars that the 1/4 mile rails go on are really interesting.
pretty interesting to see how the sausage is made. you can see the 88 foot pieces stacked in the yard and the cars being loaded with finished rail
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Originally posted by ctrhenry View Postlegally all R.R. rail is property of a rail line and none is commercially available even in scrap yards. likely what you can find is crane rail. which is the same but different.
If you show up at a scrap yard with sections of railroad track the FBI will come to see you.
They used to wire-feed and grind the switch points and frogs when they wore out, but I believe there were problems with health issues in the manganese welding process and now the weld and grind work is done quite sparingly.
Except for making nice bookends in short sections I'd leave the rail for better alternatives out of the scrap yard.Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
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Used for rippers in Sudbury
I saw a show on the TV. A site in Sudbury is using the rail tracks as rippers on their CATS to break up slag. Said the slag was wearing the rail tracks down within a day. Also said the railway tracks were the hardest perhaps best they could get. The CAT had many patches on the blade from where the slag abraded through. May have been Monster Machines???
The store bought rippers they were using would only last a few hours.Last edited by TerryL; 11-09-2008, 09:40 PM.Trailblazer 325 EFI
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Manganese work hardens. High manganese content makes railroad steel a good choice for ripping/plowing in cobbly rocky or abrasive soils. At least as far as the ripper surface is concerned. The maganese hardens with each impact to the point where it becomes brittle and flakes off (at whatever level be it visual to macro) and exposes new steel only to begin the hardening process over and over again. Not sure how the overall shank would hold up with extreme bending twisting and torsion. It might get progressively more brittle also, then snap before it wears out ?? Too many different operating conditions and soil types to make blanket statements.
Another unknown is the fact it's used railroad steel to begin with. You don't really know the age nor service duty it endured before you put it into use.
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Originally posted by ctrhenry View Postmy point exactly.Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
Miller DialArc 250
Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
Logan 7" shaper
Ellis 3000 band saw
Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
Lots of dust bunnies
Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.
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nfinch86- Canadian Weldor :
Sberry, HI; Looks Very Strong, BUT A MITE HEAVY !!!! ..... Norm :
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Originally posted by Sberry View PostI usually move them around with the forklift.
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Originally posted by Anti-GMAW View Postmy daddy always said i was IRONHEADED....
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