syncrowave 200 0r 250

[ironhorse]

Hello all,

I think this is a great message board, and everyone does a great job to help others out.

This is my question. I dont know anything about electricity.

I have a millermatic 251 mig welder and lincoln 175 tig welder.

I want to buy a miller tig welder either the 200 or the 250.

I was told that you need alot more power to run the 250.
can someone explain to me what the diff is between the two?
what is single phase 200/230 and 208/230?

can i run the 250 syncrowave on the same power that i run the millermatic and the lincoln 175?

any help would be great ,

Doug

[weldkid]

Welder

I take it that those other 2 are running on a 220 volt or higher plug. If you have them on a breaker all alone from all your other stuff, you should have no worries about power. The only reason the 250 would draw more power is becasue it can weld on thicker material "Has more amps," the more amps you use the more power you use. Hope this helped

[Slash]

Your MM251 draws 48 amps max. The S200 draws 54 amps, and the S250 draws 88 amps (all @ 200 volt input). Assuming that you have adequate power for the 251, running a 200 shouldn't be a problem. You might run into trouble with the 250 if you run it at high amperage frequently.

For comparison, a Dynasty 200 DX only draws 31 amps and a Dynasty 350 needs 47 amps.

[ironhorse]

Hello all,

I think this is a great message board, and everyone does a great job to help others out.

This is my question. I dont know anything about electricity.

I have a millermatic 251 mig welder and lincoln 175 tig welder.

I want to buy a miller tig welder either the 200 or the 250.

I was told that you need alot more power to run the 250.
can someone explain to me what the diff is between the two?
what is single phase 200/230 and 208/230?

can i run the 250 syncrowave on the same power that i run the millermatic and the lincoln 175?

any help would be great ,

Doug

So I could run the 250 as long as iam using it on low amps, I have a 50 amp breaker now, what would I have to get 100 amp breaker if i want to use higher amps on the machine?

[Slash]

So I could run the 250 as long as iam using it on low amps,

Yes.

I have a 50 amp breaker now, what would I have to get 100 amp breaker if i want to use higher amps on the machine?

You can't just replace the breaker. You need to install the correct size of wire, or it will get hot/melt/start a fire before the breaker trips.

[ironhorse]

ok, thanks for the help.

[Justin00Stang]

I bought a 250 many years ago, and thought I would never really use it. When you get going on a big aluminum project, even something 1/8", its very easy to run 250-275 amps.

[ironhorse]

after reading all of this iam wondering if I should look into the 200 dynasty dx.

most of the welding I will be doing will be on aluminum.

how does the 200 dx rank up with the 200syncrowave?

wich one would would you get?

[Slash]

For aluminum the Dynasty wins hands down, IMO. I wish I had bought a 200DX instead of the PT185.

[190MPH]

FWIW, I recently bought a dynasty 200dx. I had used it on a 120v/20a outlet and was able to get about 150 amps out of it. Recently, I tried the same machine on a 240v/20a outlet and we got 200 amps from it while it would comfortably weld 1/4" aluminum. With a little preheat, I'm confident you could do some 1/2" with it as well. The pulser and sequencer are nice features, besides the balance and frequency adjusters.

[ironhorse]

Do you use a watercooler with the 200 dx?

can the 200dx break through anodized aluminum? if so how easy?

[paulrbrown]

ironhorse, if you are going to be using the 200 DX heavy, a water cooled gun might be a good investment, if nothing else to keep your hand cool, you don't need a cooler, just a water inlet, 'garden hose' and an outlet, 'garden hose' to an outside or inside drain, if nothing else, back to a 55 or 5 gal drum to water your daiseys. Any way, you will probably need the 100 amp breaker for the Synchro 250, I have both the 250 and the 200 DX and I feel the DX when set up right is just about as powerful as the 250. It is also a lot easier to drag the 200DX around on location, albight the 250 looks impressive in your shop for customer appeal, the 200DX will getterdone. Hope this helps, man with too much stuff, Paul

[glockdoc]

I have a red 275 tig that I normally use on a 50a circuit. So far, the 50a circuit has done all of my steel stick and tig. The only time I have tripped it was when I tried to tig some big aluminum. What I did for that situation was rig up an extension cord of building wire that comes directly off a 100a breaker in the service entrance panel. The wire never goes into the house structure and just comes around the corner of the house so I can reach it with a normal ext cord. Believe I've only used it twice in four years. Definitely not code but then its only a temporary installation. Guess I could install a proper outlet box on the side of the panel and then plug my cords into that.

[paulrbrown]

I have the cord to the Synchro 250 wired directly to the 100 amp breaker in the box. I tried using 2 40's but they kept tripping, the specs call for a 100 amp breaker for the 250. It is a power hog by all means....and weighs in at over 500lbs with the Coolrunner.