New Shop pics

[Bulldog]

Laiky,
Very good point. Galvi would work well. I would like the speed and ease of Copper but it would come at a cost. I went to a couple of customers yesterday and today and picked up a LOT of work. I'm not sure if I'll get to the air this week but will keep ya posted.
Thanks for your input,
Bulldog

[imported_frank865]

The galvanized I've worked with was on the outside only. That wouldn't do any good for the internal corrosion in an air system.

[Bulldog]

Frank,
Isn't it dipped?
Randy

[imported_frank865]

Some of it may be, if so that would help. I cut some apart the other day (making a bracket), & the inside wasn't covered.
If you go with galvanized, you'd probably better check it out.

[KLboxeR]

Hey Bulldog,

That's some fine workspace you're making there.I just had a 30x40 shop put in and I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.

Did you run electric from the house or did you go with a separate meter? If it's from the house, what size wire? What size service to the shop?

How long before you could run the forklift on the new concrete?

I have 1/4" R7 insulation between the sheathing and purlins, but nothing on the interior walls. I like the finished walls you have, how are they insulated if at all?

Sorry for all the questions from a noob, but I'm really impressed with how you've finished things off


My shop:

Thanks,
Chris

[Bulldog]

Thanks Frank, I'll check into this more.
Hey Chris,
NICE shop!
I ran the power from the house. If you look back a couple of posts you'll see a pic of the line coming from the house. It's inside a white pvc pipe. I ran a 200amp service into the shop and had to go with 4/O cable and I brought over a #2 ground. Around here your only allowed 1 meter per lot. The service was alot more money then I had expected. The cable alone was about $800.00. Thay aint given that stuff away. As far as the concrete goes. I put in 12" of stone and 6"-7" of 4500 psi concrete in. I kept the shop at 50 degs and kept the humidity at about 60% for 1 full week before I did much in the shop. I did run my Kubota on it but I didn't run the fork lift on it for a few days after that. I used double bubble insulation in the walls, and above the ceiling it's rated at R11. I also taped all the seams with that foil tape. I put the insulation on the inside of the outside perlins so I can blow in some celulois if need be. So far it's been pretty good.
If you have more questions ask away. Let's see some more pics of your shop.
See ya,
Bulldog

[KLboxeR]

Thanks, BD

We had to dress up the shop a bit as we're in a residential area. There's not really much more to it right now, it's mostly storing equipment for my tree business. I'm waiting till spring to pour the floor because the back end sits on top of 36 triaxle loads of fill All moved with my Kubota about the size of yours

I'll probably run 100 amps out there from the house. It's mostly going to be repair/storage space for my equipment so I think 100 will be enough. Obviously I don't have the electric run that you do as that pic was taken from my back door. Thank goodnes with the copper prices these days.

Wow, that's one substantial floor! With the projects you do, I'm sure you'll be happy you went with the 6" thickness. Thanks for the timeline.

I'm going to call the builder and see what they recommend for the interior walls with the insulation setup I have. I really like that look (the internet is always costing me $$ )

Thanks again,
Chris

[Bulldog]

Chris,
What part of the country are ya in. If you want to see the insulation that I have do a search for Double bubble insulation. Great stuff for pole barns.
Good luck,
Bulldog

[Portable Welder]

Frank865, any hot dipped pipe or tubing will always be galvanized on the inside, if they were to try to dip tubing or pipe without being able to flow inside it will explode.
Any time I take stuff to the galvanizers if their in doubt they add extra holes with a torch so I'm always carefull not to have air pockets so they dont wreck my stuff.
There is also cold galv. that you can brush on but its no where near as good as Hot Dipped.

[KLboxeR]

Chris,
What part of the country are ya in. If you want to see the insulation that I have do a search for Double bubble insulation. Great stuff for pole barns.
Good luck,
Bulldog

I didn't realize that I hadn't filled out my profile...fixed

I'm in southeast PA. The builder installed a similar sheet material. It has a fiberglass core instead of the bubble core. I was told it's more to moderate temps and control condensate than anything. If need be, I can fire the heater (using a portable now) to warm things up a bit. Our temps are more mild here, so I guess they don't push the higher R value stuff. I don't see any reason why I couldn't add more in, though.

I may look into installing the interior walls between the poles. That way the employees may be less likely to run a trailer into the finished wall I just want to make sure I'm not causing a condensate problem.

Chris

[imported_frank865]

Frank865, any hot dipped pipe or tubing will always be galvanized on the inside, if they were to try to dip tubing or pipe without being able to flow inside it will explode.
Any time I take stuff to the galvanizers if their in doubt they add extra holes with a torch so I'm always carefull not to have air pockets so they dont wreck my stuff.
There is also cold galv. that you can brush on but its no where near as good as Hot Dipped.

I have no idea what process was used on the pipe I was using. It was 3/4 inch galvanized pipe from a local hardware store. It has been outside in the scrap/stock pile for a couple of years. I cut a foot or so of it length-ways, to make a few brackets, & the inside showed no galvanizing & was rusted.
Thats why I posted what I did earlier. Your mileage may vary.

[fun4now]

i have welded some that i took it all off the outside and the inside looked like it didnt have any but as soon as i started the weld i could tell it was galvy on the inside i think its just thiner on the inside. i never did any galvy plating but in all the electro plating i did the inside always got less, is galvy an electric process or just a hot dip?? if its electo atracted it will be thiner on the inside for shore and more so the ferther in you go.

[J hall]

Bulldog,
Your shop is coming together great. It should be a joy to work in.

[storts]

To Bulldog

Nice looking Shop,,,Im doing the same thing with mine,,But having a problem with the electric co,,I have a 200 amp in my house,,And wanted to do the same as yours,,,3 engineers,said OK,,,and 3 said,,said No,,Only 100 amp???????????

Could you please explain how you did it????Maybe i can help the engineers along!!God knows thet need it,,When they cant agree with each other,,Im in Ct. and have North east utilities,,if that matters to any one,,or could help!!!Great looking shop,,I must of read ir,But what size is it,,,Mine will be 40x 60,Thanks for your time,Jack

[Bulldog]

Hey Jack,
My shop is 30X50 and the porch is 10X50. Next spring the porch gets turned into the office and bathroom.
The way I brought 200 amps to the shop is I pulled the electric meter and in the basement I bugged my 4/0 for the shop to the 4/0 that was coming into the basement. Then that goes to a non fused 200 amp disconnect (which needs to be in the basement). Then I just ran 4/0 to the 200 amp service panel in the shop. I ran my cable through a pvc pipe but it wasn't necessary to meet code. I just have some very sharp shale in the ground.
Good luck,
Bulldog