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  • #61
    wile you cirtenly have made you r point, i was merly saying scedual 80 is whats comenly used and has been in my fathers shop for years. just as frank865 has had it in his as he stated, yet you feel the need to atack me.
    you have some beef with me you want to push here because im not in the mood to fight, nore am i the only one saying sch 80 is the way to go. so why is it you feel the need to jump on my case???
    thanks for the help
    ......or..........
    hope i helped
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    feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. [email protected]
    summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
    JAMES

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    • #62
      There are some specific types of Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) piping that can be used for compressed air. It may be colored gray, I don't know. But I'm not aware of any PVC product that is recommended for compressed air applications. The downside to the ABS is that it is more expensive, so I wouldn't recommend it to the weekend warrior, or for that matter anyone.

      If you refer back to my OSHA link, you will find they do recommend an ABS product called Duraplus. There may be other products on the market now since that was posted in 1989.

      Duraplus (note it is ABS, not PVC)
      http://www.ipexinc.com/Content/EN_CA...ressed_air.asp

      -dseman

      Fun,
      It doesn't matter how many people say that schedule 80 is the way to go. What matters is if the 'right' people say it is the way to go. And those people would be the manufacturers and engineers who design those products.

      I think it is irresponsible to dispel information, especially safety issues, that is incorrect. It is not pointed at you specifically, it goes for anyone. Sorry, but with safety issues you don't want to have an accident happen before you decide to change. You want to change so that you avoid having an accident.
      Not meaning to step on your toes, sorry.

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      • #63
        Hey guys,
        THANKS for all the good info! I do appreciate it! I have a friend that has a tractor trailer repair shop just down the road and he uses the gray pvc and has had no trouble with it either. But after reading this post and all the links I'll be going with black iron. I have alot of experience with it and know that it works. I would have liked the ease of installation of that gray pvc though...As far as moisture goes I have a big air drier that handles that nicely.
        Thanks again guys,
        Bulldog
        5 Passport Pluses
        2 MM 212's
        MM 210
        MM 251 MIA
        MM 350 P w/Python
        Syncrowave 250
        w/ tig runner
        Trailblazer 302
        12RC w/meters
        Spectrum 1000
        Spectrum 2050
        2 Black BWEs
        Joker BWE
        Star & stripe BWE Digital
        2 star & stripe xlix's

        REAL TRUCKS RATTLE
        CUMMINS BABY

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        • #64
          good choice, i dont think the lil dog was going to be happy having to polish the copper piping every week.
          dseman produced some good info and i would have to say even with seeing it used for many years safely i too would rather not chance it and i think when i make the compressor move and run solid lines i will be using copper. i dont have a good dryer for my lines and the water in the black pipe is a bit of a concern for my situation. and my little one is always geting into some thing so i'll just use polishing as his time outs. (just kidding)

          wile i where safty glasses 99.99% of the time in the shop my wife and kids pop in all the time and i would hate to see the PVC go on one of thouse ocations and cuse the loss of there sight. so i'll upgrade to copper for safty reasons.

          dseman
          thanks for the info.
          thanks for the help
          ......or..........
          hope i helped
          sigpic
          feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. [email protected]
          summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
          JAMES

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          • #65
            Fun,

            Thanks for understanding, I didn't mean to be blasting you personally. I get a little 'vocal' when it comes to safety risks and potential accidents that can be easily avoided.

            -dseman

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            • #66
              no biggie i'm probly still a little on edge about the one post wonder bashing me the other day. not shore why i let him bother me, just need to up my meds a bit that might help calm me down.
              thanks for the help
              ......or..........
              hope i helped
              sigpic
              feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. [email protected]
              summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
              JAMES

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              • #67
                Hey guys,
                well got a chance to start moving the gear in. I still have a lot to orginize but thought that I'd take some pics of my progress. It's nice to have a little room to move around. Keep in mind everything that's in the new shop was in my 24X24 garage. There is still more to bring in.
                See ya,
                Bulldog
                Attached Files
                5 Passport Pluses
                2 MM 212's
                MM 210
                MM 251 MIA
                MM 350 P w/Python
                Syncrowave 250
                w/ tig runner
                Trailblazer 302
                12RC w/meters
                Spectrum 1000
                Spectrum 2050
                2 Black BWEs
                Joker BWE
                Star & stripe BWE Digital
                2 star & stripe xlix's

                REAL TRUCKS RATTLE
                CUMMINS BABY

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                • #68
                  More pics
                  Bulldog
                  Attached Files
                  5 Passport Pluses
                  2 MM 212's
                  MM 210
                  MM 251 MIA
                  MM 350 P w/Python
                  Syncrowave 250
                  w/ tig runner
                  Trailblazer 302
                  12RC w/meters
                  Spectrum 1000
                  Spectrum 2050
                  2 Black BWEs
                  Joker BWE
                  Star & stripe BWE Digital
                  2 star & stripe xlix's

                  REAL TRUCKS RATTLE
                  CUMMINS BABY

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                  • #69
                    Makes me jealous!

                    Were is the MM251?


                    Tobin
                    MM251
                    Miller Dialarc HF-P 310 Amp Tig
                    Victor O/A Setup
                    Lincolin 225Amp Buzzbox
                    Cummins Freak

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                    • #70
                      very nice bulldog,bout what i got in mind for my 3 acres in spring.congrats

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                      • #71
                        LOL ; The dog sure looks right at home there in front of the fire place in his own little bed.
                        That Miller family looks pretty happy there also.
                        To all who contribute to this board.
                        My sincere thanks , Pete.

                        Pureox OA
                        Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
                        Miller Syncrowave 250
                        Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

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                        • #72
                          looks good BD, I like your new 250 purchase. Is that stove still working as good as its supposed to? Maybe an update / review forus. How much ash does it produce on a moderately clean coal?
                          hre

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                          • #73
                            did you run the air yet ?
                            looks real empty now but i bet it fills up fast.
                            thanks for the help
                            ......or..........
                            hope i helped
                            sigpic
                            feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. [email protected]
                            summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
                            JAMES

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by fun4now View Post
                              did you run the air yet ?
                              looks real empty now but i bet it fills up fast.
                              yeah me too, put 2 or 3 tables in there and it will be like home.
                              hre

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                              • #75
                                On what I think was the Hobart forum a couple years ago there was a big discusion on the piping and there were codes that did not allow the Pvc piping due to temputure and in time the ultra violet rays attacking the plastic making it brittle a suseptable to blowing up.
                                on my last two shops I used black Pipe but found now that I finally had my own shop verses renting I would use copper.
                                I found running copper to be much easier than running black pipe and for corrosion reasons I wanted to go first class.
                                I also ran valves to drain my water with a drip leg at every drop.

                                Bull dog I keep one of those curly cued hoses hanging at my tig bench to run all my die grinders for tig welding, I keep another short hose at my saw to blow the chips away and another at the drill press to blow chips away.
                                I also keep 100' of hose at the door for putting air in tires or for outside painting, another one near the plazma cutter and then a few more.
                                All in all I have 5 drops and could use one more and my shop is close to the same size as yours.

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