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  • frank865
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    Some of it may be, if so that would help. I cut some apart the other day (making a bracket), & the inside wasn't covered.
    If you go with galvanized, you'd probably better check it out.

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  • Bulldog
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    Frank,
    Isn't it dipped?
    Randy

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  • frank865
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    The galvanized I've worked with was on the outside only. That wouldn't do any good for the internal corrosion in an air system.

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  • Bulldog
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    Laiky,
    Very good point. Galvi would work well. I would like the speed and ease of Copper but it would come at a cost. I went to a couple of customers yesterday and today and picked up a LOT of work. I'm not sure if I'll get to the air this week but will keep ya posted.
    Thanks for your input,
    Bulldog

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  • Laiky
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    Back to airlines. How come nobody suggested galvanized pipe? I was under the impression you weren't supposed to use black iron for compressed air??

    I used schedule 40 pvc in my gararge, if i knew of the dangers then i wouldn't have. Has anybody priced copper?? you gotta be nuts to go that route!

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  • Coalsmoke
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    Originally posted by Bulldog
    Hey guys,
    Coal,
    As far as the coal goes. Coal itself doesn't burn. Its the stuff in the coal that burns off the coal. So if you burn 90lbs of coal you get about 85 lbs of cinders. Now getting rid of cinders is no trouble for me I can just pile it up and bury it in the spring. Remember in the old days light weight concrete blocks were called cinder blocks. Some people still call blocks cinder blocks even though there are no cinders in them. Coal was so widely used in the United States that there was an over abundance of coal cinders. So the block producers were given it for free if they would make blocks with it. Well of course the use of coal went away and so did the light weight aggergate. Nowadays we use expanded shale in our light weight blocks. Another by product from a coal fire is fly ash. It's a very fine dust and I also get some of that in my hopper but it's not very much.
    Now about the table, it's not an acorn table (I wish it were) it's a plainer table. Off a plainer machine. (Of course) The square holes don't go all the way through. I think it will make a good bench. It needs to be cleaned up.It's kinda oily now. It had a 1" plate on it so the table top is in near perfect condition. It's absolutely flat. If I get somebody crazy enough to offer money like Portable welder is talking about I will gladly load it on a truck and deliver it.
    Thanks for showing interest guys,
    Bulldog
    Hey bulldog, that's interesting about where the name cinder block came from, thanks. Coal in fact does burn, just not completely (not that any stove fuel does burn completely). First the volatiles burn and then the carbon. With good qaulity coal like what I use in my forge, you will burn 50lbs and have perhaps two handfuls of clinker and three to four cups of ash. If I were you, I'd shop around when it comes time to purchase another load, it could mean less trips to the clinker pile for you, plus, the less silica you are paying for, the more of the good stuff you are getting. I always pay attention to water content percentages as well, for obvious reasons.

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  • fun4now
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    how close to all the way threw are the holes?? could ya finish them off with the spec 1000 ? ofcorse then you would have to get all the accesory parts for the acorn table then. maybee thats not such a good idea.

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  • Bulldog
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    Hey guys,
    Coal,
    As far as the coal goes. Coal itself doesn't burn. Its the stuff in the coal that burns off the coal. So if you burn 90lbs of coal you get about 85 lbs of cinders. Now getting rid of cinders is no trouble for me I can just pile it up and bury it in the spring. Remember in the old days light weight concrete blocks were called cinder blocks. Some people still call blocks cinder blocks even though there are no cinders in them. Coal was so widely used in the United States that there was an over abundance of coal cinders. So the block producers were given it for free if they would make blocks with it. Well of course the use of coal went away and so did the light weight aggergate. Nowadays we use expanded shale in our light weight blocks. Another by product from a coal fire is fly ash. It's a very fine dust and I also get some of that in my hopper but it's not very much.
    Now about the table, it's not an acorn table (I wish it were) it's a plainer table. Off a plainer machine. (Of course) The square holes don't go all the way through. I think it will make a good bench. It needs to be cleaned up.It's kinda oily now. It had a 1" plate on it so the table top is in near perfect condition. It's absolutely flat. If I get somebody crazy enough to offer money like Portable welder is talking about I will gladly load it on a truck and deliver it.
    Thanks for showing interest guys,
    Bulldog

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  • Coalsmoke
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    Originally posted by Portable Welder View Post
    Heh Bull Dog, that table looks like a version of my acorn table however I think I have the biggest one that they make which is 5' x 8'
    Dont let that table get away because I doubt youll find another one like it.
    I checked the price on my table when I got it at an auction about 7 years ago and a new one was $ 3,400.00 without the frame to put it in.
    I bet with the increase in steel that the table is in the $ 4,500.00 range.
    I've seen quite a few in the 8x8' range, seems to be a common size, and a fellow smith in the neighbouring town has a 8x12', but I am unsure of who actually cast them. The largest I have heard of so far is 12x20. I agree, hang on to it if you have a use for it, if not, let someone buy it off you one day in the future, they are hard to come by. Is acorn a name brand? I've always heard it associated with platen tables, but never known where "acorn" comes from.

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  • Portable Welder
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    Heh Bull Dog, that table looks like a version of my acorn table however I think I have the biggest one that they make which is 5' x 8'
    Dont let that table get away because I doubt youll find another one like it.
    I checked the price on my table when I got it at an auction about 7 years ago and a new one was $ 3,400.00 without the frame to put it in.
    I bet with the increase in steel that the table is in the $ 4,500.00 range.

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  • fun4now
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    a clinker drive way for your clunker car.
    i thought it was all ash i didnt know ther was a solid left over too.

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  • Coalsmoke
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    most of that would be clinker, not much ash, and clinker isn't good for much of anything, its sort of like a glassy coral, but maybe a person could do a clinker driveway with it in time I just make a clinker pile at my place and spread it around in low swampy areas needing some fill.

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  • fun4now
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    what do you do with all the ash ?? the garden could only handle so much i would think??
    thats a lot of table you got going there.
    when you going to install the over head crane system. that would probly be more use to ya then a car lift.

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  • Coalsmoke
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    Thanks Bulldog for the pictures of the stove. I wonder whether or not they have models for other grades of coal. That's quite a bit of clinker, do you know what is the silica and ash count of that coal? I'm wondering if a person could run a low silica metalurgical or sub-B coal that would produce less clinker. Not that it really matters. The reason I was asking is because I have been looking into these coal fired water heating systems, and thought a coal stove would be a nice supplement to it. One of the things I'd need is the ability to leave the heater for up to a week or so, for vacation and what not. The boiler systems have hopper systems available, but I'm not sure about the ash buildup, whether it would over accumalate after a few days. Since you like your coal stove so much, I'm going to look into this some more.

    Thanks again for sharing about the stove,
    CS

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  • Bulldog
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    More pics from around the shop.
    Pic 1. The stove at high fire.
    Pic 2. The electric line from my house.
    Pic 3. My new welding table. 4'X14'.
    pics 4 and 5 the night watchman.
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