New Shop pics

[Bulldog]

Thanks guys!
Hey James, I may need some help moving all the equipment...
Bulldog

[fun4now]

i'll run a map rout and see how long it takes to get there, not shore how much help i can be but i'll save up a few extra pain pills for the day.
let me know when the cement is ready, and you have the time, me i got all kinds of time options.

[Bulldog]

Hey Guys,
James don't worry about comin over to help with the move, I was just messin with ya. I would like ya to come by sometime but let me get moved in 1st. I bought a Toyota propane powered fork lift to help move the heavy stuff. I also have the Kubota tractor so the little Bulldog and I will be makin a bunch of trips up and down the road between the house and the shop real soon.
See ya,
Bulldog

[fun4now]

no problem, i would probly just get in the way or hurt myself, im not real good at watching people work even if it means hurting myself i have to jump in and give a hand.
here you might find thease of interest, putting in the final stiches tomarow.
if you shoot me back your tank sizes i'll threw in a few of the second pic for ya.
we finaly got a good tank pattern going and i have most of mine coverd now. just have to remake my MM135 in cammo to match the tank cover.

[Coalsmoke]

Fun, I know you like covering stuff, and I use a cover on my TB, so I can't talk, but ......... protecting the tank

[fun4now]

its not about protecting it, well the gage covers are good for keeping paint overspray off the faces as well as other stuff. but the tank covers are just to cover up the tanks they give you when they swop them out, some of them look like they been dragged threw the city dump. i got a big suprise when i painted one and almost had to buy a rental tank, so painting it is out . if you have a nice clean shop, and new welder and then you have this POS sitting behind it just looks bad. some things are purly for looks, the tank cover falls into that one. we cant controle the tank they give us but we can do something about its looks when we get it home.

[Bulldog]

Hey guys,
Well I haven't been keeping up I guess I didn't see the last couple of posts. Hey is that my mm350 cover James? It looks good.
I'll have a few more pics soon of the shop we're placing the concrete tomorrow (Fri).I got the lights in and outlets along the walls so next week this time I should have some equipment in so I can start running the 240 volt elec. lines.
See ya,
Bulldog

[Coalsmoke]

its not about protecting it, well the gage covers are good for keeping paint overspray off the faces as well as other stuff. but the tank covers are just to cover up the tanks they give you when they swop them out, some of them look like they been dragged threw the city dump. i got a big suprise when i painted one and almost had to buy a rental tank, so painting it is out . if you have a nice clean shop, and new welder and then you have this POS sitting behind it just looks bad. some things are purly for looks, the tank cover falls into that one. we cant controle the tank they give us but we can do something about its looks when we get it home.

That's a good enough reason for me. power to ya

[Portable Welder]

Nice shop Bull Dog, I see you have already liner paneled it, I really like the colors you picked.
Id like to make a few recommendations to you on the electrical.
I finished my shop a year and ten months ago. and I like you ran my electrical on the outside of the walls in conduit. My shop is 38' wide x 40' deep with 16' ceilings. I have a 200 amp single phase panel
I have 18 boxes for my 110 volt power that has two plugs each, I ran five 50 amp 220v outlets for my mig welders, two 30 amp 220v for the air compressor and the iron worker one 20 amp for the phase converter to run my drill press and one 100 amp outlet for the tig welder.
This may sound like alot but it gets used up very quickly.
Dont forget an outlet and a switch to have a light outside over the door, if your going to have a furnace youll need an outlet for that.
A ceiling fan makes a huge difference to push the heat down out of the ceiling, I thought I was going to need two fans but found one commercial fan is more than enouph.
If your going to have a bathroom and an office in your shop I found that the cheap little electric heaters that cost $ 40.00 at home depot with a built in thermostat work great for keeping the office and the bathroom heated instead of having to heat the whole shop on the days when your doing office work.
You will also find that the office gets hot in the summer so your going to need an out let for the air conditioner.
In the bathroom I also put another circuit so I can operate a 6 gallon hot water heater.
You may want to put your air compressor in a loft so you will need a plug up high in that area.
You just cant have enouph electrical and with your bigger shop you will find that you buy more tools and its nice if the power is already there.
I would also recommend using larger conduit than you need because you will eventually want to pull an extra circuit through it.
Im sure you know about most of these things, just trying to make you aware of some of the things that I had not thought about before hand.
Good luck your shop looks great and the view from way up there is worth a million bucks.

[imported_frank865]

Nice shop Bull Dog, I see you have already liner paneled it, I really like the colors you picked.
Id like to make a few recommendations to you on the electrical.
I finished my shop a year and ten months ago. and I like you ran my electrical on the outside of the walls in conduit. My shop is 38' wide x 40' deep with 16' ceilings. I have a 200 amp single phase panel
I have 18 boxes for my 110 volt power that has two plugs each, I ran five 50 amp 220v outlets for my mig welders, two 30 amp 220v for the air compressor and the iron worker one 20 amp for the phase converter to run my drill press and one 100 amp outlet for the tig welder.
This may sound like alot but it gets used up very quickly.
Dont forget an outlet and a switch to have a light outside over the door, if your going to have a furnace youll need an outlet for that.
A ceiling fan makes a huge difference to push the heat down out of the ceiling, I thought I was going to need two fans but found one commercial fan is more than enouph.
If your going to have a bathroom and an office in your shop I found that the cheap little electric heaters that cost $ 40.00 at home depot with a built in thermostat work great for keeping the office and the bathroom heated instead of having to heat the whole shop on the days when your doing office work.
You will also find that the office gets hot in the summer so your going to need an out let for the air conditioner.
In the bathroom I also put another circuit so I can operate a 6 gallon hot water heater.
You may want to put your air compressor in a loft so you will need a plug up high in that area.
You just cant have enouph electrical and with your bigger shop you will find that you buy more tools and its nice if the power is already there.
I would also recommend using larger conduit than you need because you will eventually want to pull an extra circuit through it.
Im sure you know about most of these things, just trying to make you aware of some of the things that I had not thought about before hand.
Good luck your shop looks great and the view from way up there is worth a million bucks.

All good advice here, just wanted to add, for your outside light, use a timer switch. They'll fit where a regular switch does, but you can twist it when you leave, & have light to get to your truck, or the house, then it'll turn itself off. Just a simple thing, but it really makes it nice on those late, dark nights!
HTH

[Bulldog]

Hey guys,
I just wanted to update ya all. We poured the concrete today things went pretty good. We had the perfect day for it sunny and about 50 deg f. Not alot of wind which is very unusual for us up here on the hill. I have alot of the electrical done. I'm using 8 - 110 watt high output floresents. Man talk about bright!!! As far as the outlets go I have 5 boxes (4 plugs each) on each wall. I haven't installed any 220 outlets yet I don't really know where the equipment is going to end up. I picked up the new coal stocker on Wednesday. If the concrete is ok I'll have that hooked up on Sunday.
Thanks for the good advise Portable/Frank. I agree that you can't have to many outlets. I'll keep ya posted on our progress. The pics are of the crew (and The Little Bulldog of course)placing the concrete
See ya,
Bulldog

[fun4now]

i have a small front door type light outside my shop door on a photo sensitive switch with a little screw in floresent light, uses almost no power and i can always find my key and the lock in the night when i need to.

[Bulldog]

Hey guys,
Well I guess I have the electrical just about figured out, (with some good ideas from some of you guys) now how about the air... I was planning on running black 1" steel with 3/4" drops, but what about that gray plastic that I've seen around is it any good? How about copper? It would sure look nice. (For a while anyway). I don't have a big shop so it won't be an overly expensive undertaking. What do you guys use?
Thanks,
Bulldog

[imported_frank865]

I use 3/4 inch schedule 80 gray PVC in my shop (several local industries do also)
I ran the main supply high & at the drops, position the tee pointing up then use 2 90 degree elbows to bring it down. At the bottom, use a tee & elbow for the tap then a few inches of drip leg & a water drain (I use 1/4 inch ball valves). Also I put a drain/drip leg in the vertical riser, & put about 1/4 - 1/2 inch per foot slope in the high supply line. I've had mine in place for over 10 years with no problems & no water in the lines. (I still use a MotorGuard filter in the line for the plasma cutter though!)

[MintSScout]

I would use the heavy black cast iron gas pipe. The bigger the piping is the bigger you're tank is in the end.