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    looking at 2 grinders, one a 90 dollar 4.5" dewalt ( same as i have and i love it) that comes with a quick change nut. the other a big bad 12 amp milwaukee with variable speed and feedback 5" that does not have a case or quick change nut. I really want the milwaukee but the dewalt is just a better deal, it also comes with a case that is extra with the milwaukee. I'm wondering if there is any downside to the quick change setup?? does it loosen? is it too big and causes interferance? does it really work without tools?

    What are your opinions?
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    Millermatic 175
    Spectrum 375
    All kinds of Smith OA gear

  • #2
    I love my metabo 4 1/2 with the quick change nut

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    • #3
      I have a couple of the Metabo grinders with the toolles change and I think it is more trouble than it is worth. I took the nut off of a couple old grinders and use them more than the toolless design. It's hard to use with gloves on which always seems to be the case when changing.

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      • #4
        If you run angle grinders without the gaurds like I do, you don't need tools no matter the type of nut holding the disc/wheel on. Just lock the spindle lock, grab the disc and twist, done.

        Ofcourse, in this day and age, I'm forced to tell you that not using a gaurd isn't safe, and should be avoided at all costs. If OSHA had their way, my wife would have to wear a helmet and mouthpiece during ***.

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        • #5
          I have a couple of the Metabo grinders with the toolles change and I think it is more trouble than it is worth.
          EXACTLY!!!

          I have four Metabo's, best small grinders I've ever owned. That said, the quick-change nut is a solution to a problem that does not exist

          The tool-free guard adjustment is great, more & more brands now have that. If you want a few quick-change Metabo nuts, just send me $10 for every one you want
          Barry Milton
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          • #6
            I have 3 of the D284xx series dewalts and love them. The nut has a knurled OD and still has provisions for the spanner wrench. It's also exactly the same size as the backing plate, so I don't see it as getting in the way of anything. There's nothing fancy about the nut like with metabo's. It's just a regular nut with knurls.

            For the little cutoff disks I run on one of them, the spanner wrench is still needed since the cutoff guard ($11 from dewalt) covers more of the wheel than the other style. But like Matt said, you can typically just grab the thing and unscrew it (like I do with all the flap wheels I run on another one).
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            • #7
              I have the 4.5" dewalt, 10 amp with the quick change nut. I think the quick change works well but I would have bought it anyway without it. The quick change nut did not influence me.---MMW---
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              • #8
                now i want one, why you guys always gotta tell me about the cool new stuff thats out?? i stay home so i wont see it and feel the need, and here you are telling me any way.
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                you better keep OSHA away from your bed room.. ..not real shore what all is going on in there requiring a helmet and mouthpiece and i dont want to know but if i told my wife that she needed a helmet and mouthpiece she just might divorce me, and i'm too old to try to break another one in.
                thanks for the help
                ......or..........
                hope i helped
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                • #9
                  the quick change was always a hassle to me with gloves on also, i use the regular nuts and never use a wrench.

                  marty
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fun4now
                    and i dont want to know but if i told my wife that she needed a helmet and mouthpiece she just might divorce me,

                    You mean that you haven't tig welded up your wife a helmet with handle bars on it yet??? no mouthpiece needed LOL

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by precisionworks
                      EXACTLY!!!

                      If you want a few quick-change Metabo nuts, just send me $10 for every one you want

                      And send me $10 for every blade gaurd you want.

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                      • #12
                        I've got four different brand angle grinders, and they are all "tool-less" like Matt's! Press the spindle lock, twist, done.

                        Hank
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                        • #13
                          My vote is for the 4" Matabos. There's not a better 4" grinder built! IMO
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                          • #14
                            Bulldog-

                            Three of my Metabo's are the W7-115 (4 1/2"), the fourth is a w10-125(5" with 1/3 more power). If you like the W7, you'll love the W10
                            Barry Milton
                            ____________________

                            HTP Invertig 201
                            HTP MIG2400

                            Miller Trailblazer 302, Spoolmatic 30A, Suitcase 12RC
                            Clarke Hotshot

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                            • #15
                              what is it about the metabos that everyone loves so much??

                              i've never used one, but they don't seem any better than a dewalt or milwaukee. I've had my dewalt for about 6 years, i've never been unhappy with it. What are you guys paying for the Matabo's??

                              If money weren't afactor id go for the 12 amp feedback milwaukee.
                              Dynasty 200 DX
                              Millermatic 175
                              Spectrum 375
                              All kinds of Smith OA gear

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