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    Anyone use the New Sync 200? Just want to know if it's anygood and would it be better in the long run to have than the Dynasty 200 DX. I would basically use it for hobby stuff and I see no need to spend $3000+ for something that is probably too much for me to handle at the moment.
    Saving for Dynasty 200 DX

  • #2
    Power Difference

    It looks to me that the inverters (Dynasty) burn between 1/3rd to 1/2 as much power as the transformer (Sync) series for the same output.

    How long until that burns up the $1,000 difference in price? Given what electricity costs right now...
    BigDTig, Dallas, Texas
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    • #3
      A few others things to consider other than they both say "200:"

      The advanced squarewave of the Dynasty can give you significantly more penetration at times, especially with its greater range of balance.

      Also, portability may or may not be important to you. You can throw the Dynasty on the floorboard of the truck and take care of business, even with 120V.

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      • #4
        the syncro 200 will take good care of you if you can feed it the 54 amps it needs to go full out.the dyn200 is great welder and will also do you great. it realy comes down to $$$ and power. if i could come up with the 54amps i would get the synco without another thought. the dyn. will dial in a bit more but at a hobby level the synco will be great. the dynasty is a hifg tec. welder suited for specilty stuff and a lot of it you would most likely never use.if you have the extra $$ go for it its agreat welder, but as a hobbiest if you dont need the power funtions and portability you dont need to pay for them, lots here love there dyn. and wouldnt trade them for anything, but if you need to consider $$ the synco is a great welder.

        its only draw backs are power hungry and size.
        thanks for the help
        ......or..........
        hope i helped
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        • #5
          Originally posted by BigDTig
          It looks to me that the inverters (Dynasty) burn between 1/3rd to 1/2 as much power as the transformer (Sync) series for the same output.

          How long until that burns up the $1,000 difference in price? Given what electricity costs right now...

          For most of us it would take a lot of years to burn up that $1,000, in a hobbiest setting. I have yet to be able to see ANY difference in my power bill after hooking up my Syncro 250 last year. It only pulls significant power when the arc is on, which is very little total time for most (non-production) projects.

          The (relative) portability and the ability to shape the arc on A/C (aluminum) are really the key benefits of the Dynasty over the Syncro. Neither were critical to me, or worth the extra $$, so I am a happy Syncro owner.

          JD

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          • #6
            The dynasty has a lot of options and features that a hobby user may not need. The fact that it weighs around 40 pounds and you can plug it in anywhere is a big plus if you make money with it.I think for home/hobby use you cant go wrong with the sync.

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            • #7
              i would look at your power options and then work from there, if you can suply the needed 54ampsa 50amp circuit would likely be fine.

              then decide if space is an isue, do you intend to leave it in your shop???will its 240lbs be an isue??

              if bolth of the above are still ok with you then go ahead and get the syncro. it will do anything you would need within its 200amp range. the new syncro added some key features makeing it a well rounded welder and cirtinaly a better starter welder than the dyn.200. with auto ajust on the post flow it will likely save you some gas, witch will add up a lot faster than the electric savinge of the dyn.

              dont get me rong the dynasty is a great welder, but it was desined for portability and power options for the profeshinal welder that will be takeing it to work with him rather than going to it for work. it has a higher degree of ajustability, but there again something a hobbiest realy wont need.

              if $$ is not a concern and the extra $1000.00 is no biggy then jump on the dynasty, however if that were the case we would likely not be in this thread.

              in the end it will be your desition, as its your $$$ but you dont need the dyn. to get your job done. now if ya just want show off points the dynasty 200DX will shourly get you them although i would be verry happy to show off my new syncrowave 200 also.
              thanks for the help
              ......or..........
              hope i helped
              sigpic
              feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. [email protected]
              summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
              JAMES

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              • #8
                As far as what a hobbiest would need to be concerned with the advantages of the Dynasty over the Sync is portability and arc control in the AC mode for aluminum welding. If those two advantages aren't worth the extra $1K to you then the Sync 200 would be the sensible choice.

                Not to say the Sync is not up the task on AC. I've used the 250 and own a 180SD with pulser and they do a very fine job with aluminum.

                Now, would I RATHER have a Dynasty 200DX? Yes! ****, if money was no object I'd rather have a 300DX tigrunner.

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                • #9
                  Why give up the arc-shaping and low current draw of a inverter when the TSW 185 cost the same as a Syncro 200???
                  You can weld thicker Aluminum because of the superior wave balance
                  range of the inverters. It also has 2/4 step repeat built in. The air-cooled
                  will stay cooler(AC) so you can weld at a higher amp output without water-cooling. It also has a full range pulser that can respond faster then any trans/rec machine. It's been proven longer then the 200 syncro.
                  Still the 200 looks like a good machine, just not a great one.

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                  • #10
                    I guess I will stay with the Dynasty. Those added controls could be a great help in the future once I can get taught or learn on my own how to use them. Thanks everyone for the advise.
                    Saving for Dynasty 200 DX

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