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    My Syncrowave 250 bit the dust today. I was welding 20 guage mild steel and it starts running wide open and gets a help 1. Tryed running it in stick mode and the same thing happens. The guys from General Welding Supply in Martins Ferry Ohio are comming to pick it up tomorrow. Pretty nice of them to do since the warrenty does not cover pickup of the machine. I think I might have a new welding supply dealer with them, a lot of the local places here in washington Pa wont give me the tme of day with the exception of Welding Equipment Repair Service but he's not an authorized Miller service shop. Hopefully it wont be too long before its done.
    I've had this problem before but it was very seldom and I didn't give it much thought, just turned of the machine and started again.Now it happens immediatly. There is other things that dont seem quite right, maybe its related. It doesn't allways turn on to the previous settings and even though I have a switch to bypass the remote controll I still have to fysically disconnect the remote to use the stick weld. I'll post here when I know more, mayby these small incosistancys are a warning sign that a problem exists.
    To all who contribute to this board.
    My sincere thanks , Pete.

    Pureox OA
    Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
    Miller Syncrowave 250
    Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

  • #2
    I hope you get it back soon and in good repair, having machines in the shop is not a great feeling , when my STL was getting a new board it was only gone a week but I still missed it. Good thing Miller is on top of those things .
    Regards, George

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    Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
    Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

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    • #3
      Originally posted by burninbriar
      these small incosistancys are a warning sign that a problem exists.
      That's interesting. My Thermal 300 prolite had a funny arc start on the mig
      setting every once in a while. It did not all the time but enough to know it was there. I traded it in and Airgas sold it to a guy and it blew a board.
      They handled the $1850.00 board though warranty but I always wondered
      if that was a warning sign? It pays to pay attention to things that are not
      quite right.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scott V
        That's interesting. My Thermal 300 prolite had a funny arc start on the mig
        setting every once in a while. It did not all the time but enough to know it was there. I traded it in and Airgas sold it to a guy and it blew a board.
        They handled the $1850.00 board though warranty but I always wondered
        if that was a warning sign? It pays to pay attention to things that are not
        quite right.
        Makes absolute sence to me, why suffer through small things that don't seem right, get it in and get it fixed I think.
        Regards, George

        Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
        Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
        Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

        Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
        Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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        • #5
          Originally posted by burninbriar
          My Syncrowave 250 bit the dust today. I was welding 20 guage mild steel and it starts running wide open and gets a help 1. Tryed running it in stick mode and the same thing happens. The guys from General Welding Supply in Martins Ferry Ohio are comming to pick it up tomorrow. Pretty nice of them to do since the warrenty does not cover pickup of the machine. I think I might have a new welding supply dealer with them, a lot of the local places here in washington Pa wont give me the tme of day with the exception of Welding Equipment Repair Service but he's not an authorized Miller service shop. Hopefully it wont be too long before its done.
          I've had this problem before but it was very seldom and I didn't give it much thought, just turned of the machine and started again.Now it happens immediatly. There is other things that dont seem quite right, maybe its related. It doesn't allways turn on to the previous settings and even though I have a switch to bypass the remote controll I still have to fysically disconnect the remote to use the stick weld. I'll post here when I know more, mayby these small incosistancys are a warning sign that a problem exists.
          If you would, let us know how much it costs to fix the welder.

          Thanks

          TMT

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Too_Many_Tools
            If you would, let us know how much it costs to fix the welder.

            Thanks

            TMT

            I believe it's under warranty according to Burninbriar's first post

            Dennis
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            • #7
              Old 03-26-2005, 03:58 PM
              burninbriar burninbriar is online now
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              Hey Bulldog,dont beat youre self up to bad,it will get better quicker than you think.My first welds went so good it was unbeleivable,even the aluminum was pretty decent.Then I got worse instead of better and now I'm probably where I should be at my leval.Practising without filler for a while seemed to help me get control of the arc and puddle behaviour.
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              I found this post from a while back ago, I'm wondering if my problems were starting back then. I just figured my good alluminum welds were beginners luck so to speak.

              Too-many-tools :
              the welder is under warrenty, the service shop is sending a truck to pick it up from out of state free of charge, I couldn't be happyer with the way they are treating me.

              I hate to say it but I'm used to this bad luck, My new porter cable router spent a year and a half rideing in ups trucks to get repaired, I finally fixed it myself. This is my second computer in a row, the first one was so bad they couldnt fix it, ups lost my speakers and the list goes on and on. It scares the gigeebees out of me to buy anything new any more, its like I'm jinxed.
              To all who contribute to this board.
              My sincere thanks , Pete.

              Pureox OA
              Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
              Miller Syncrowave 250
              Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

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              • #8
                Originally posted by burninbriar
                Too-many-tools :
                the welder is under warrenty, the service shop is sending a truck to pick it up from out of state free of charge, I couldn't be happyer with the way they are treating me.
                I understand that it is under warranty now but knowing what it costs to fix it would be useful knowledge for others who have welders that aren't under warranty. It also gives you the data you need later when your warranty expires as to whether to keep the welder or move it before you start paying the full cost of the welder ownership. Many people don't realize that many used welders are not the bargains that they seem to be....not until they are educated by the next repair bill.

                Consider this example...you are shopping for an used car and the engine makes a certain sound. From previous experience, you know that it will cost X dollars to fix the underlying cause that is causing the noise. As a buyer, you will use this knowledge to adjust your offering price accordingly. With the higher and higher prices for repairs (that is if the parts are available at all), anyone who buys used welding equipment needs to be informed. I have had situations where two similar welders were for sale which only differed by age. By knowing the true cost of the repairs, one welder was an excellent buy while the other was a white elephant.

                Again, if you would post the cost of repair it would be appreciated.

                Thanks


                TMT

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                • #9
                  Since you were having these problems intermittently, it sound like just a microprocessor glitch. I had a couple of these do that same thing down in St Louis and now they are as good as new.

                  Easy fix.

                  Andy

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                  • #10
                    The problem started out intermittant and at the time I called for service it was a constant. I sure hope it is the micro processor you are talking about.
                    To all who contribute to this board.
                    My sincere thanks , Pete.

                    Pureox OA
                    Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
                    Miller Syncrowave 250
                    Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

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                    • #11
                      I got a call today and it looks like my welder is a candidate for medical science for welders. They had it resuscitated once and it looked as though they had it fixed and then it relapsed durring testing. I am getting a new replacement and the old one is going back to Miller for an autopsy accoording to the tecks working on it.
                      Incase any one is wondering about how long its been gone, I told them it is not my source of income and I would rather see a guy who needs his machine to feed the familly get his machine back befor me.
                      I am really looking forward to getting it , it been a long time with out and a lot of projects waiting to be done.
                      To all who contribute to this board.
                      My sincere thanks , Pete.

                      Pureox OA
                      Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
                      Miller Syncrowave 250
                      Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

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                      • #12
                        Glad to see that they are doing the right thing for you. It was very nice of you to take a deep breath and step back and relax. In the long run your great attitude probably helped everyone.

                        Good luck catching up with all your projects when you get the new unit. Let us know how it performs.
                        Bob Sigmon
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                        Dynasty 200DX w/ Coolmate 3
                        Miller Passport
                        LMSW-52T Spot Welder
                        A/O Setup with Meco Midget
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                        • #13
                          It should work like a new one.
                          To all who contribute to this board.
                          My sincere thanks , Pete.

                          Pureox OA
                          Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
                          Miller Syncrowave 250
                          Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

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                          • #14
                            I figured that it would/should, but your other one was new too wasn't it?

                            Anyways. . . . . . . . .
                            Bob Sigmon
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                            Dynasty 200DX w/ Coolmate 3
                            Miller Passport
                            LMSW-52T Spot Welder
                            A/O Setup with Meco Midget
                            Miller Big Window Elite
                            Quincy QT-5HD

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                            • #15
                              I guess I should have said " someone elses new one."
                              To all who contribute to this board.
                              My sincere thanks , Pete.

                              Pureox OA
                              Westinghouse 300 amp AC stick
                              Miller Syncrowave 250
                              Hexacon 250 watt solder iron

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