Owned 90/10 bottles, anywhere??

[sarge338]

I live in the Charlotte area, and I am having a hard time finding anyone who will sell a bottle of 90/10. Everyone seems to only have 90/10 in 300cf bottles, and they all require leases for them. I’m trying to get away from bottle leases. Does anyone know of a company that will sell a 125cf bottle of 90/10?

Thanks

[Ltbadd]

From time to time I see these bottles being sold on craigslist in my area, also you can buy new on Amazon, empty and then have your LWS fill it.
If you decide to go this route just check with your supplier before you buy, seems suppliers around the country have different rules for accepting and filling owners bottles

[aametalmaster]

It takes 10 or 12 300 size bottles to fill small bottles to pressure. If not the 2 bottles will just equal out. I filled them daily at my local weld supply place

[ryanjones2150]

If you get a smaller bottle than what is normal for what you’re asking for, getting your bottle filled may not be as easy as you’d like it to be. Some places MAY fill it for you, but you’ll probably have to drop it off and come back for it later.

Here in TX, if you choose the 99 year lease, it’s basically the same as buying it but it relieves you of the burden of keeping the cylinder within hydrostatic testing dates. If you own it, I think it’s every 5 years? Someone will correct me if I’m wrong on that.

I’ve owned cylinders and I’ve weeded them all out as their hydrostatic date came due and just swapped it in for a “lease” deal.

Now the annual rental cylinder, that would get expensive for me. I have a bunch of gas cylinders.

[metalmagpie]

Mix C25 with argon and get any blend you like.
I suggest you search for a 150cf bottle rather than a 125. All 150cf cylinders are owner cylinders so when you sell it the buyer can be confident they aren't buying a tank from someone who doesn't own it. Easier to sell = better resale value.

Many 125cf cylinders are legally owned by the company that leased them out or rented them out, and cannot be sold or swapped. So if you buy one be very careful. In fact, go have a talk with your LWS clerk and get his cellphone number. When you go to look at the 125, snap a pic of the neck ring area and text it to your clerk. If he says okeydoke buy it and go swap it with your guy. That way you safely get a full 125 complete with paperwork.

It's not hard to put together a simple mixing arrangement from some hose and Western Enterprises fittings. There are spreadsheets on the Web that will tell you what CFM values you need for each gas to get the desired ratio.

[G-ManBart]

Mix C25 with argon and get any blend you like.
I suggest you search for a 150cf bottle rather than a 125. All 150cf cylinders are owner cylinders so when you sell it the buyer can be confident they aren't buying a tank from someone who doesn't own it.

That isn't true everywhere. Bottle rules vary wildly from place to place. I've seen people make the same claim that all 125 bottles are owned, never leased, but that's also not true everywhere.

Even within the same state the rules can be different, and certainly from supplier to supplier.

[metalmagpie]

That isn't true everywhere. Bottle rules vary wildly from place to place. I've seen people make the same claim that all 125 bottles are owned, never leased, but that's also not true everywhere.

Even within the same state the rules can be different, and certainly from supplier to supplier.

I stand by what I said. I know for sure that many 125s are rental/lease tanks, too.

I live in Washington. If I own cylinders here and drive with them to states where you supposedly can't own them, do they magically become someone else's? They do not. It's only the local welding supply stores imposing their BS rules on you.

[Mickey(not so fine)]

I've found that in my area it varies by who's asking and when. Over the years, I've run across a bunch of surplus bottles. Most of them came from Illinois. My local suppliers in Georgia told the ol' fella that it would be against the law to refill or exchange. I went to the same place the next day and they swapped 'em with no questions asked. Recently I ran across 6 of the big oxygen tanks and my current supplier said that due to the collars being from different companies and that the size was for rental/lease only, they'd not be filling or exchanging them. One of my customers bought 'em all, went to the same place and got 'em all swapped out. There seems to be little rhyme or reason...

Mickey

[ryanjones2150]

I agree. I moved here (Texas) from Washington and had bottles from Washington. Here in TX they do a 99 year “lease”, so I swapped my cylinders into their “lease” program which all it really does is transfer responsibility of hydro testing to the LWS. Now I basically “own” cylinders that I never have to pay to have hydro tested.