Water cooled torch for Dynasty 210?

[manac]

Never owned a water cooled torch. Replacing my Syncrowave 200 with a 210 DX. I’ll weld for a few hours at a time and I do push the machine welding 3/8 material. Is water cooling nice or does it make a difference with a little welder like this?
Thanks
Chillin in CT

[Ltbadd]

Once you try a water cooled torch you'll have the answer to your question, buy the torch and don't look back.

CK torches are one of the best and are rated 100% duty cycle on AC and DC

This is the torch I use on my 210DX it has the super flex hoses and you can choose either the ridge or flex head

[ryanjones2150]

Yup, You’ll never want another air cooled torch again, especially on aluminum.

[manac]

Thanks, I’ll pick up a CK18. Got way too many consumables for my WP17 not to start with the same size torch.

[G-ManBart]

Thanks, I’ll pick up a CK18. Got way too many consumables for my WP17 not to start with the same size torch.

Honestly, that negates a lot of why a water-cooled torch is so much nicer. The CK20 is the size of a CK9, so way smaller and easier to use than the 17/18 size.

I've used a couple of these inexpensive torches with fantastic results so far, but I do use good consumables on them. I have a Miller/Weldcraft on my Sync 250DX and the cheap copy on my Everlast and don't really see any difference. For $70 it's hard to go wrong:

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[manac]

Your right a smaller torch would be better. I’m running a 17 now so I’m used to it and I have too many **** 17/18 consumables to dump them. I’ll pick up something small in the future.

[ryanjones2150]

I agree, I wouldn’t waste the money on a club size water cooled torch. You’ll be money ahead to buy the 20 size water cooled torch, there will be plenty of opportunity to keep using that 17 air cooled so those consumables won’t go to waste.

[manac]

Sorry for the loooong delay. The 210 welded well but no HF start. Took it to a shop and it took them a month to get to it. I had told them I had another machine so it wasn’t a rush. Turns out someone had taken the HF board. $530 later it checks out great! Ordered a CK 20 torch, if I’m going to ask for advise I should listen to it. It’s killing me, I haven’t started playing with it yet. I’m working over in Poland and don’t get home till next week.

[jjohn76]

That's very odd for it to be missing the HF board and still be an operable machine, especially as a 200 class machine. I have seen a lot of parts pulled from non-working machines, especially industrial ones, but not too many from working machines.

[manac]

Worked fine except no HF. No errors, guess Miller didn’t think it had to check for missing boards.
The machine was set up as a stick welder. Only came with 50’ very heavy set of stick leads.

[ryanjones2150]

Those stick leads ain’t cheap either, that’s for sure. But why would someone set a dynasty, of all machines, up for stick welding only? You could get a couple hundred dollar thunderbolt and do the same thing? Doesn’t really make much sense unless it was a government owned machine.