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  • HWS LLC
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    That’s fair, I sent mine for one number being out and the fine adjustment knob being broke off. It’s not like it was fried.

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  • Helios
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    Originally posted by Mickey(not so fine) View Post
    Helios,
    I agree with your skepticism and truly appreciate that meme! That being said, from the couple of companies I've dealt with on board repairs, Innovat was the best to work with and the most honest and upfront from first communication...
    I'm not questioning the quality or "do-ability" of the board repair, whether it's done by Innovat or anyone else.

    What I question is whether it's worthwhile to spend $$$$$ to fix a board, then install it and leak the Magic Smoke as soon as you power it up because some other link in the (very, very, very long) chain was what was wrong in the first place. Then you're back to Square One, except $$$$$ poorer.

    You hear about these expensive rigmaroles with inverters all the time. It's like playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded 45 auto. Sooner or later ya gotta cut your losses, throw the POS in the landfill and start over from scratch.

    YMMV.


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  • Mickey(not so fine)
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    Helios,
    I agree with your skepticism and truly appreciate that meme! That being said, from the couple of companies I've dealt with on board repairs, Innovat was the best to work with and the most honest and upfront from first communication. I had made a decision to never repair boards ever after multiple bad experiences with a couple of outfits, but I'm currently using a local company(I like to spend my money locally if at all possible) and they repaired a Lincoln board for me that Innovat said they could not repair. I do not do board repairs unless the OEM is unavailable...too much to go wrong and give me a black eye with a customer.

    Mickey

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  • Helios
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    Originally posted by HWS LLC View Post
    You could try having your board repaired at this place called innovat corporation out of Virginia. They charge a flat rate to repair boards. I think my trailblazer board was $360 before shipping
    Hmmm...

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  • HWS LLC
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    You could try having your board repaired at this place called innovat corporation out of Virginia. They charge a flat rate to repair boards. I think my trailblazer board was $360 before shipping

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  • cruizer
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    List price on that PC1 board is $1367 US, and thats List, We don't pay list..... another Grand to t-shoot and replace seems a little much

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  • Weld dr
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    Originally posted by Helios View Post
    Inverters rule.
    Until they don't.

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  • jjohn76
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    That's surprising you're not even showing around 160V across those two heatsinks without popping your circuit breaker.

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  • Helios
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    Inverters rule.

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  • aametalmaster
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    They aren’t cheap

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  • gunnare
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    Finally took the machine to my nearest miller survive which was Airgas. They diagnosed the problem as a bad PC board and quoted a repair price of $2,435.60!

    “WORK SCOPE
    REMOVE COVERS AND TROUBLESHOOT. POWERED UP - DISPLAY WOULD SHOW SYNCROWAVE 210 BUT IT WOULDNT LET YOU ACCESS
    THE MENU AND THERE WAS NO OUTPUT IN ANY OF THE WELD PROCESSES. TRACED TO BAD PC BOARD, CHECKED THE SECONDARY
    SIDE DIODE ASSY - TESTED OK. WILL REPLACE PC BOARD, REASSEMBLE, LOAD TEST AND WELD TEST”

    Does anyone know if this board is available at a lower price anywhere else. There’s no way I’d pay that price to have machine repaired, especially since this part failed during regular use with relatively low hours on the machine.

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  • gunnare
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    Sorry, I should have been more clear. You read it correctly and it was almost 0 volts.

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  • blue_tech
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    Am I reading that response correctly? It looks like you typed .488 VDC? or was there no decimal and it was 488 VDC? That is a big difference if it was almost 0 volts at .488, or if it was close to 500 volts at 488 VDC. Two very different troubleshooting paths.

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  • gunnare
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    Originally posted by blue_tech View Post
    How much voltage do you measure from heatsink HS6 in reference to heatsink HS2 when the unit is turned on?

    It should measure about 440 VDC when the boost circuit is operating properly in the PC1 board.
    Thanks you for the reply!

    I got a reading of .488 VDC. I turned the power off and it dropped back to 0 VDC. I turned the power on again and got a reading of .512 VDC.


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  • blue_tech
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    How much voltage do you measure from heatsink HS6 in reference to heatsink HS2 when the unit is turned on?

    It should measure about 440 VDC when the boost circuit is operating properly in the PC1 board.
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