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  • miller 15 amp gun for 252

    little confused they say 15 amp gun is same as 30 amp gun? its just length of cords....but why would they call one 15 amp...and the other 30 amp?...makes little sense to me?...is 15 amp gun enough for most projects and repairs? or should i buy 30 amp??
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    The 15a and the 30a spool guns are identical except the cord length. One has a 15’ cord, the other a 30’. I have no ideas what the “a” actually means.

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    • #3
      thanks ryan i found this one..used 4 times its like new for 750 shipped good deal???....i see them going for as much as 1600 Click image for larger version  Name:	160139626_492086991957654_256411816807961304_n.jpg Views:	0 Size:	116.8 KB ID:	614455 Click image for larger version  Name:	161751552_492086925290994_4379155852228118446_n.jpg Views:	0 Size:	130.6 KB ID:	614456
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      • #4
        Keep in mind that's a 15' gun - if you need 30, you can replace the cable for only $340 or so
        https://www.miller4less.com/product_...7603c951f3i1o0
        Good luck... Steve

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        • #5
          Oh, and you better HOPE that "A" doesn't mean Amps; those guns can take pretty much anything the MM252 can put out and are rated for 200 amps at 100% duty cycle - I've used mine with .035 steel wire at over 180 amps and it barely gets warm... Steve
          Last edited by BukitCase; 04-08-2021, 01:00 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sickchoppers View Post
            thanks ryan i found this one..used 4 times its like new for 750 shipped good deal???....i see them going for as much as 1600 Click image for larger version Name:	160139626_492086991957654_256411816807961304_n.jpg Views:	0 Size:	116.8 KB ID:	614455 Click image for larger version Name:	161751552_492086925290994_4379155852228118446_n.jpg Views:	0 Size:	130.6 KB ID:	614456
            That's not stealing it, but not a bad price either. I've seen the 30A go for $500 in a bit rougher condition or $750-900 in super nice condition. That one looks very nice, so it's reasonable.

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            • #7
              it appears both the 15a and 30a are both 200 amps...so im good...i appreciate yall helping out been dreaming of the 252 for over 15 years...im glad hobart dragged their *** with the ironman 240...lol should bought the 252 first anyway..heard the 240 ironman has aluminum transformer coils...lots say thats go good
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              • #8
                Like he said, it’s not a spectacular price, but I’d try and get a 30a for not much more. You’ll want that longer cord. I never understood the 15’ cord to begin with, kind of defeats half the purpose of a spool gun.

                But I’m glad you’re getting things set up over there. This equipment ain’t cheap, that’s for sure.

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                • #9
                  The "A" in the Spoolmatic 15A and 30A stands for Air-Cooled. Way back in the day, there was a water-cooled option. Guys on here are correct. The only difference is the length of the guns, 15A is 15 feet long and 30A is 30 feet long. Welding amperage rating is the same for both guns which is 200 Amps. The water-cooled option could go up to 400 Amps.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by blue_tech View Post
                    The "A" in the Spoolmatic 15A and 30A stands for Air-Cooled. Way back in the day, there was a water-cooled option. Guys on here are correct. The only difference is the length of the guns, 15A is 15 feet long and 30A is 30 feet long. Welding amperage rating is the same for both guns which is 200 Amps. The water-cooled option could go up to 400 Amps.
                    Interesting! I've wondered about that for years as well.

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                    • #11
                      The 200 amp spec is at 100% duty cycle - miller doesn't spec maximum amps at less than 100%, but the MM252 is only rated 100% up to 160 amps - at 200 amps, the 252 is only 60% and at 250, only 40% - So my statement that the 30A can take anything the MM252 can put out, still stands...

                      Another suggestion - if your environment can get a bit rough, there's a less $$$ option to protect that $400 gun cable - the leather one costs almost as much as the replacement cable

                      https://www.miller4less.com/advanced...x=0&search.y=0

                      My cheaper solution, done on the 30A as well as the 20' torch on my plasma

                      https://www.amazon.com/Techflex-1-1-...7988964&sr=8-3

                      That stuff is tough; the 1-1/2" size stretches enough to go over the welder end of the 30A, then you can massage it along the length to cover all but a few feet at the welder end... Steve

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                      • #12
                        need to get some kind of wrap for the wires...protect them..
                        Last edited by sickchoppers; 04-11-2021, 01:37 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Firearms are not on my list of barterable items. They’re mine, get your own!

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