Miller price increase??

[classj]

Does anyone know what the percentage price increase will be on the dynasty 200dx?

On BR's website they claim all orders must be in by june 8th for current pricing but I think that must be a typo because cyberweld and others show it as July 8th.

I am still not sure whether I am going with the TA185 or the dynasty but I want to decide this week so that if I am going with the miller I can avoid the price increase if possible.

[kejohnson]

What I heard

When I talked to my dealer they said their prices were going up on July the 10th. I would have to assume that they need a couple days lead time to make sure they don't get hit with the additional charges. From what I have heard the change will end up resulting in about a 5% increase to the end user.

Thanks -- Kelly

[Sundown]

Lets see that means a D200DX w/contractors kit will go from $2887 to about $3031 (getting very close to twice as much as the TA) from IOC, BRW & places like that. For those not quite ready to buy yet the TA185TSW is looking like a better and better deal.

[classj]

5% increase, Geez, just when I thought they were expensive now.

The TA still seems like a great deal and a very comperable machine. But for some reason I am still not comfortable with buying one yet. I looked at the machine, touched it, played with the controls. And I am still skeptical.

With the miller I feel like I have a security blanket which includes a great company, dealers, and this website. I havent seen too many TA message boards, have you? And yes, we are paying for that in the cost of the miller machine but is that so bad when you really think about it?

But all I know is that everytime I convince myself that I am going to order the TA, I get a bad vibe and back off. I always thought I would buy a miller machine and I guess I still have that idea etched in my head. It seems like that even though the miller is alot more money, I would definatly be more comfortable with the purchase.

Either way I think that I am going to see if I can order a machine this week to beat the increase. I dont know if it is going to be a TA or a miller but we will see.

The last issue is where to buy it from. My two local dealers want like 200 more for either machine plus 6% tax. They are giving me the old "where are you going to get it serviced if it breaks routine". They claim that even though they are a miller center they can refuse to service it. In my mind miller would have to make arrangements for service regardless of where I bought it.

I mean the dealer cant do anything about the tax, but $200.00 seems like a lot of money for questionably better service and attitude. Seems like the internet guys want my money more.

[Sundown]

Classj,

Go back to the home page, get into service and lookup the repair centers in your area. The only thing your dealer is going to do is to take the machine to a authorized service center. If you are under warrenty Miller will make sure it gets repaired, I don't like doing business with "business's that have an attitude". When my dealer wanted to send my Maxstar to a service center of his choice that I didn't trust I just took it to another authorized service center, they called Miller, got the job authorized, and fixed it, I had it back in a week. The dealers around here floor and sell Miller, Lincoln, sometimes Esab, thermal cutters, and whatever else. The only brand loyalty they have is what makes them the most money and causes them the least amount of problem's. I have no problem with that as, business is business, but I do have a problem with "attitude". I don't know what I am going to do either, if I was rich I guess it wouldn't matter, problem is, I'm not so I have to watch where my money goes. I like my Maxstar 150STL & my MM210 sooo much that I can't imagine not buying the Dynasty 200DX just because of a money issue.

[Wheat]

Best price I've seen on the web for the Dynasty is

http://cyberweld.com/

HTH

[Sundown]

Best price I've seen on the web for the Dynasty is

http://cyberweld.com/

HTH

Yep, looks to be about $20 cheaper when you add in the contractor kit.

[classj]

I agree about the money sundown, its going to sting a bit if I go with the dynasty. But going with the TA is going to hurt in its own right. So who knows.

That is the cheapest I have seen it. Problem is that I am in NJ. So I would have to pay tax on it . I could pick it up to save shipping (if they would do that) but it is still more than the BR or Indiana Oxygen price.

I looked online and there is a bunch of on site centers around me so it is not an issue as long as miller backs the product (which I am sure they will ). The dealer I was at is also listed as doing on site repair work.

I also cant stand the attitude from some of these dealers. I called the Welco/Cgi that fills my O/A tanks (I dont use them that much and only fill them a few times a year ) and they acted like they couldent be bothered and never called me back. I called AGL welding (who I have gotten stuff from in the past including my lincoln buzzbox, and O/A setup) and they are the ones that basiclly threatened to not service my machine if I dont get it from them. It is one thing to honestly tell me that they cant match the price, hey you cant draw blood from a stone, but attitude?? These local dealers have to understand at times that not everyone has the ability to throw away hundreds of dollars on a machine that can be delivered to the door with one phone call in a few days from online for less $.

If I was buying tons of stuff from my local dealer and my buisness depended on it, I would pay the difference. But on the other hand I have gotten sh**ed on so many times by some local guys I have just about given up on them. When the guy at the candy store that sells me a 1.00 cup of coffee in the morning treats me better than someone selling me a 3000.00 welder, something is wrong.

I think now is a good time to find a new dealer for my gasses when I buy the new tank. I think I am going with a 60 or an 80cf. I really have no problem buying locally, but around here no dealer has been able to put the idea together that if they give me a good price with a smile I will buy other stuff from them including my gasses.

[HAWK]

I was told by my dealer all orders must be entered by 12 noon on July 8th to avoid the 5% price increase.

[MAC702]

I was told by my dealer all orders must be entered by 12 noon on July 8th to avoid the 5% price increase.

Does that mean you've picked out your new engine drive?

[HAWK]

I am still kind of torn between the arc of the Pro 300D and the power of the Big Blue 500. Oh well I have a few days...

[millermania]

Oooh, you guys are the greatest. Thanks for the heads-up on the price increase. I guess I'm gonna be ordering one this week.

[Sundown]

Oooh, you guys are the greatest. Thanks for the heads-up on the price increase. I guess I'm gonna be ordering one this week.

One what ?

[millermania]

One what ?

D200DX. I guess the timing is good since I just finished wiring up the garage for it over the weekend.

[PUMPKINHEAD]

If I was buying tons of stuff from my local dealer and my buisness depended on it, .

I think you hit the nail on your head, you need to understand a dealer is not going to say "****, buy your machine from the 'net or some back alley market, i'll service it, no problem" these businesses depend on sales to stay alive, and it takes more than 2lb spools of wire to do it. they depend on you, it's not attitude they are displaying, it's survival, all businesses that compete with the 'net are fighting the fight.

are you in a similar position? how would you like it if day after day people asked you to lower your prices because they found a better deal?
how would you react if your boss asked you to accept a pay cut because they know of a person just as capable as you that would work cheaper?

dealers with buildings have many more expenses than warehouses that get quantity discounts, and don't need to service the customer.

end of lecture.