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  • Legend Help Needed

    It's good to be back. I got a new laptop and lost my login password. So I have not been on in a long time.
    For those of you that PM'ed me, my sincere apology, if you want to try again I will get back to you.
    Now the reason of the post:
    My friend bought a Miller Legend #KK226352 LP gas 4014 hrs.
    We got it started ran fine with no load, with the leads on DC it would barely run 1/8 6010.
    The motor lugged way down, I could make it run a bead but it was a chore and it did not matter what range the selector was in or the fine tune.
    I switched it to AC 70-105 setting fine tune #5 and it welded fair (6011), and the motor was way less labored but did not sound happy.
    I had a Legend years ago and it welded smooth and with ease. (Someone stole my Pickup, welder, air compressor, tools and all.)
    The welder it self looks real good, the paint is not faded, no dents or scratches, the decals are peeling off, but that's it.

    Now the Question: Why will it not weld in DC mode?
    Why is the motor so labored?
    Thank you in advance.
    Good Luck,
    Bob Miller
    Last edited by Bob Miller; 04-08-2018, 08:46 PM. Reason: forgot the KK
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  • #2
    Has the unit been sitting unused for a long period of time?
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    • #3
      I believe the welder was sitting for a long time. Also the nuts where the cable lugs attach did not look like they used.

      I'll think it was used as a generator. Or who ever attached the cables made sure not to turn the nuts over and scratch up both sides.

      Good Luck,
      Bob
      Millermatic 252 w/30A
      Big Blue Air Pak
      Ellis 3000 Band Saw
      Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
      8-RC
      Dynasty 200 DX
      XMT 350 MPa w/S-74 MPa Plus
      Millermatic 211
      Passport Plus
      Spectrum 625 X-TREME
      Lincoln SA-200 Blue Tint Red Face '63
      2-Lincoln SA-200 Red Face '68
      SA-200 Black Face '59
      SA-200 Green Lite '84
      SA-200 Green Lite '80
      SA-200 Red Face '69
      SA-200 Red Face '66
      SA-200 Green Lite '81
      '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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      • #4
        That’s a fair amount of hours on a gas motor. As a rule of thumb, a gas motor is said to have around 5000 hours of longevity.
        For a machine that’s been sitting unused, I would check the brushes and ensure their not stuck and not completely worn out. I’f the brushes check out, then shine up the slip rings. Then check weld performance again.
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        Miller Bobcat 250
        Thermal Arc Hefty 2 feeder
        Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
        Torchmate CNC table

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        • #5
          Did you check to see if the Onan P-218 is firing on both cylinders? Have seen them run "fine" on one cylinder with a broken rod in the other resulting in a severe bog down under load.
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          • #6
            Lost Password again. So it's been about a month I was off line.
            Have not had time to check anything out yet and this week does not look better.
            Work just gets in the way of all the fun stuff.
            But I will try all of the aforementioned as soon as I can and post back.
            Thank you,
            Bob Miller
            Millermatic 252 w/30A
            Big Blue Air Pak
            Ellis 3000 Band Saw
            Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
            8-RC
            Dynasty 200 DX
            XMT 350 MPa w/S-74 MPa Plus
            Millermatic 211
            Passport Plus
            Spectrum 625 X-TREME
            Lincoln SA-200 Blue Tint Red Face '63
            2-Lincoln SA-200 Red Face '68
            SA-200 Black Face '59
            SA-200 Green Lite '84
            SA-200 Green Lite '80
            SA-200 Red Face '69
            SA-200 Red Face '66
            SA-200 Green Lite '81
            '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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            • #7
              Finally had time to look at the Legend.
              I thought I would warm it up,then pull the spark plugs.
              While warming it up I burned a few rods. AC 7018 could not start an arc, 6011 could weld but by the end of the stick motor was dragged way down.
              DC(remember I could not weld at all in DC) 6011 would run again motor labored.
              One more stick of 6011 ran a little better, 7018 ran fine, another stick 6011 ran fine.
              In the end it fixed it's self, bad part is the hour meter still reads 4014 hrs.
              Now it's destined to a life of fence building in Nevada.
              Thanks for all the help and Good Luck,
              Bob
              Millermatic 252 w/30A
              Big Blue Air Pak
              Ellis 3000 Band Saw
              Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
              8-RC
              Dynasty 200 DX
              XMT 350 MPa w/S-74 MPa Plus
              Millermatic 211
              Passport Plus
              Spectrum 625 X-TREME
              Lincoln SA-200 Blue Tint Red Face '63
              2-Lincoln SA-200 Red Face '68
              SA-200 Black Face '59
              SA-200 Green Lite '84
              SA-200 Green Lite '80
              SA-200 Red Face '69
              SA-200 Red Face '66
              SA-200 Green Lite '81
              '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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