Spoolmatic 3. 14pin to 4pin adaptor do it yourself for MM 200

[John T]

Would like to adopt my Millermatic 200 to a spoolmatic 3 gun that has 14 pin connector (only 3 are used)
my unit has 4 pin connector. Trying not to buy the hundred and fifty US dollar adapter cord any suggestions?

[MAC702]

Miller once sold me directly the cord connector separately for my 14-pin TB301G so I could make a 2-wire cord to my really old Miller remote feeder. I just made my own cord with an extension cord and the 14-pin connector on one end (two pins actually used). If Miller doesn't, you should be able to find someone that has just the connector available.

Cheaply, anything that shoves into the pin recesses on the machine will work, even if you have to tape it all together.

[John T]

thanks very much. I think there also has to be a couple of wires joined inside my machine from what I have read on some conversations but I do not know which ones. I think I will buy the spoolmatic 3 while I can and worst case scenario I can buy the adapter but hope I can find out proper wiring.

[Aeronca41]

Somewhere I have the generic MIL part number for the standard 14 pin connector; can't remember whether it's male or female but if you have one it should be easy to find the other. I bought one on ebay for not very much $. Will look it up and post later.

[John T]

Thanks so much. As you said if I got the appropriate pin size I could even put them in the appropriate holes and then form them with silicone or apoxy covering them all and wrap that with tape so it forms a plug. What i have to find is what wires do what. The mm expert seemed to say i need to jump two wires inside my machine even with the adapter.

[H80N]

Somewhere I have the generic MIL part number for the standard 14 pin connector; can't remember whether it's male or female but if you have one it should be easy to find the other. I bought one on ebay for not very much $. Will look it up and post later.

cross this one... see if it is correct...

14 pin amphenol, clocked for Miller part # AIT6AA20-27PS

[MAC702]

...What i have to find is what wires do what. ...

You are on your own to verify any of this:

https://www.weldmart.com/miller%2014%20pin%20info%20page.htm

[John T]

Appreciate the help. great diagram. I will post when I get this figured out and hopefully hooked up and operating.

[xryan]

Amphenol part # MS3106A20-27P should be the 14 pin Miller male plug. $15-20 on Fleabay
Amphenol part # MS3106A20-27S should be the 14 pin Miller female socket $20-25 on Fleabay

[Aeronca41]

Amphenol part # MS3106A20-27P should be the 14 pin Miller male plug. $15-20 on Fleabay
Amphenol part # MS3106A20-27S should be the 14 pin Miller female socket $20-25 on Fleabay

Yep-those are the part numbers I have also. Often available on eBay. Sometimes tied to Miller part no 136961--I think that is the one with the male pins. I suspect the number H80N posted may also be good-there are a couple of different numbering schemes for that style of connector.

[John T]

Thanks again. I'm not sure how to proceed as my machine has the 4 pin I was planning on trying to get a 4-pin to install directly onto the spoolmatic cord with no adapter just learning the wiring necessary to marry up to my 4-pin as the spoolmatic 3 is using only three of the14 pins anyways. If I cannot get a 4 pin plug . I will buy the plug and receptacle as you have given me the numbers and make the whole thing 14 pins. If I've got this wrong please advise. I have read duaneb55 post which has helped quite a bit as well. I messaged him to try to find out wiring specifics and am awaiting a response.

[H80N]

Serial numbers on MM200 & Spoolmatic PLS........... ???

[duaneb55]

John T - Replacing the SM3 14-pin plug with a 4-pin to match the earlier MM200, this is how I've done it in the past:

MM200 4-pin "A" to SM3 14-pin "G"
MM200 4-pin "B" to SM3 14-pin "B"
MM200 4-pin "D" to SM3 14-pin "A"

Do NOT use the MM200 4-pin "C"

The original SM3 14-pin "B" and "A" can be reversed and still work the same.

I would not replace the 4-pin receptacle in the MM200 with a 14-pin as it (the 14-pin) will not be compatible with any Miller 14-pin accessories configured as above to work with the SM3.

[duaneb55]

John T,
The internal modification and patch cord you refer to elsewhere is for using the WC-24 and Spoolmatic 15/30A on the older MM200s equipped with 4-pin spoolgun control receptacles. To allow using the older SM3 on the earlier MM200, the above pin out schedule is all external.

[duaneb55]

The 4-pin Amphenol (not to be confused with AMP) plug parts are:

97-3106A-18-4P

http://www.onlinecomponents.com/amphenol-io-973106a184p.html?p=46849133&ref=WebTrendCPC&utm_term=97+3106A+18+4P&utm_campaign=SKUs+69&utm_medium=cpc&cshift_ck=7C792625-55AA-4782-97D7-A076A64319BFcsNUHJcgvS&utm_content=NUHJcgvS&utm_source=bing

97-3057-10-6

http://www.onlinecomponents.com/amphenol-io-973057106.html?p=46813004&ref=WebTrendCPC&utm_term=97+3057+10+6&utm_campaign=SKUs+69&utm_medium=cpc&cshift_ck=7C792625-55AA-4782-97D7-A076A64319BFcsvDvgY2cN&utm_content=vDvgY2cN&utm_source=bing