Syncrowave 210 vs. Mutimatic 215...or...

[Metjunkie]

That's some great info to put in the vault, Bob. I have a stand alone tig machine, but I have had friends inquire about tigging off a buzz box.

[aametalmaster]

Here's one...Bob http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...-or-not-to-use

[aametalmaster]

And it's not scratch start with the TIGPig. It's adds HF to a buzz box.

And buzz boxes are made with a smaller transformer than a TIG welder. Do a search here and read what Andy has to say about the conversions and all of the junk Thunderbolts that were rejected with warranty work because the operators tried to TIG with them and fried the transformer. Just saying...Bob

[Lostone]

you are correct, it does have an on/off button. I had to rig one for my HF box.

And shooting yourself in the eye with HF is wonderful technique for handicapping yourself. I have to say, I have never seen anyone do it. You should video it.

its better when you covered with sweat and you get your crotch just a little too close to the welding table.

Just sayin'.

[ryanjones2150]

you are correct, it does have an on/off button. I had to rig one for my HF box.

And shooting yourself in the eye with HF is wonderful technique for handicapping yourself. I have to say, I have never seen anyone do it. You should video it.

[Broccoli1]

Another vote for the 215.

i hooked up my spoolgun to my Passport because I wanted the longer whip on a project and it just became a PIA.

this was before I got the 252

[Lostone]

You can also stab yourself in the eyeball with an ice pick, doesn't make it a good idea. <br />
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My first AC tig rig was an HF box and a thunderbolt. Against all advice, I did it anyway and it was a waste of time and money. <br />
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Be better off with a spool gun for once in a while repairs. Probably cheaper too. <br />
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But yes, you can do it. <br />
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Please don't poke yourself in the eyeball just to show me that you can do it. We leave that stuff for Olivero. He's our test subject.

So what your saying is I shouldn't test the high frequency output by pointing it at my eyeball?

And it's not scratch start with the TIGPig. It's adds HF to a buzz box.

[ryanjones2150]

You can also stab yourself in the eyeball with an ice pick, doesn't make it a good idea. <br />
<br />
My first AC tig rig was an HF box and a thunderbolt. Against all advice, I did it anyway and it was a waste of time and money. <br />
<br />
Be better off with a spool gun for once in a while repairs. Probably cheaper too. <br />
<br />
But yes, you can do it. <br />
<br />
Please don't poke yourself in the eyeball just to show me that you can do it. We leave that stuff for Olivero. He's our test subject.

[Lostone]

That's made in my town. It will allow you to scratch start tig aluminum, but it won't win you any prizes. <br />
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The guy that makes them is pretty funny. Go check out his YouTube videos. At the very least, read the owner's manual for the arc pig. It's a riot. <br />
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But anyway, if you're trying to make that your first aluminum tig welder, you'd be money ahead to just buy a machine that allows you to control the amperage remotely. This exact topic has been beat to death on here. It just is not functional outside of random, minor repairs. <br />
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Even so, the arc pig is cool. Been meaning to get one, just keep getting side tracked.

I have used one. The manual is funny. And your right it not the optimal way of doing it but it makes my point that it can be done. Especially for the once in a blue moon repairs

[ryanjones2150]

That's made in my town. It will allow you to scratch start tig aluminum, but it won't win you any prizes. <br />
<br />
The guy that makes them is pretty funny. Go check out his YouTube videos. At the very least, read the owner's manual for the arc pig. It's a riot. <br />
<br />
But anyway, if you're trying to make that your first aluminum tig welder, you'd be money ahead to just buy a machine that allows you to control the amperage remotely. This exact topic has been beat to death on here. It just is not functional outside of random, minor repairs. <br />
<br />
Even so, the arc pig is cool. Been meaning to get one, just keep getting side tracked.

[Lostone]

I'd like to see you turn an AC buzz box into a TIG machine. Me thinks not likely.

http://www.arcpig.com/index.html

[ryanjones2150]

I'd like to see you turn an AC buzz box into a TIG machine. Me thinks not likely.

[Lostone]

I have a few...... but I have been at it for a while....(since 1968.. )

I wasn't even thought of in '68. He'll, my parents were in middle school in '68.

[H80N]

How may TIG guys only have one machine?

I will agree with your statement to wait to see where your needs will lie

I have a few...... but I have been at it for a while....(since 1968.. )

[Lostone]

Think most TIG guys would disagree

Believe the OP might be best served taking a local CC course in welding before spending the money on an equip...

Might reveal an aptitude or aversion to one or more of the processes

How may TIG guys only have one machine? And that machine is mostly set up for TIG work.

I will agree with your statement to wait to see where your needs will lie