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  • #61
    I bought mine Dec./16 , and Yes, I would do it again in a heart beat.
    It's a fantastic welder, easily portable ( 38 Lbs. ) , great features ( Stick - Tig - Mig ) and the power for such a small in size welder is incredible.

    I have not tried the tig feature yet, but mig & stick are great.

    I was lucky, my LWS. gave me $100. off plus I got the $200. rebate, on top of that my supplier also gave me a small tank of C-25 to keep for myself.

    Al in All I could not be happier !!!!

    Norm
    www.normsmobilewelding.blogspot.com

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    • #62
      Norm,

      Thanks for your response. These are going for about $1380 online through the various online retailers (no tig torch included). Just curious if you beat that price after your rebate? I am guessing the price may have been higher and rebate brought it somewhere close to the $1380 price being offered now?

      Thanks,
      Gary

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      • #63
        Originally posted by fordtruckman View Post
        Norm,

        Thanks for your response. These are going for about $1380 online through the various online retailers (no tig torch included). Just curious if you beat that price after your rebate? I am guessing the price may have been higher and rebate brought it somewhere close to the $1380 price being offered now?

        Thanks,
        Gary
        No. Gary - Not even close.

        I'm in Canada, so @ 76 cents to the American Dollar , it was close to $1,800. before the rebate .

        So, after the rebate + 13% tax + the price of the cart, it was $2,000. out the door

        PS: - I also bought some other supplies as well @ that time, a couple packs of tips, a Bernard Stinger & some welding gloves.

        Norm
        Last edited by nfinch86; 03-03-2017, 04:55 AM.
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        • #64
          Well I bit the bullet Thursday and went down to my LWS and purchased the 215 and a Hypertherme 45XP. I had considered purchasing from an online internet supplier and save the sales tax, but elected to pay a little more to support the local guys and hopefully establish a good working relationship for future needs. I spent yesterday putting a 50 Amp plug in the garage. Am anxious to play with the new toys this weekend. Thanks to all for your input to my research. I may be looking to you all in the future for advice on "how to" questions. I haven't been welding that long so I can get things to stay together, but they are not very pretty in the process. Just need more practice; I guess.

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          • #65
            Get the tig package with that 215?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by fordtruckman View Post
              Well I bit the bullet Thursday and went down to my LWS and purchased the 215 and a Hypertherme 45XP. I had considered purchasing from an online internet supplier and save the sales tax, but elected to pay a little more to support the local guys and hopefully establish a good working relationship for future needs. I spent yesterday putting a 50 Amp plug in the garage. Am anxious to play with the new toys this weekend. Thanks to all for your input to my research. I may be looking to you all in the future for advice on "how to" questions. I haven't been welding that long so I can get things to stay together, but they are not very pretty in the process. Just need more practice; I guess.
              I totally agree with buying from your Local welding supplier.
              I've built up a great relationship with mine the last 10yrs.

              As I said above, after I bought my MM 215, I was about to leave & he said here take this tank of C-25 as well.
              I said what a lease tank , & he said no, It's yours.......... Wow.

              As far as the welder, you will love it, it's a great machine !!!!!!!!!
              Lite & very portable, easy to carry any where you need it .

              But, it's the power of such a small in size welder that got me.

              Enjoy, your new welder, it'll last many years .

              Norm
              www.normsmobilewelding.blogspot.com

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              • #67
                Originally posted by nfinch86 View Post

                I totally agree with buying from your Local welding supplier.
                I've built up a great relationship with mine the last 10yrs.

                As I said above, after I bought my MM 215, I was about to leave & he said here take this tank of C-25 as well.
                I said what a lease tank , & he said no, It's yours.......... Wow.

                As far as the welder, you will love it, it's a great machine !!!!!!!!!
                Lite & very portable, easy to carry any where you need it .

                But, it's the power of such a small in size welder that got me.

                Enjoy, your new welder, it'll last many years .

                Norm
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by fordtruckman View Post
                  Well I bit the bullet Thursday and went down to my LWS and purchased the 215 and a Hypertherme 45XP. I had considered purchasing from an online internet supplier and save the sales tax, but elected to pay a little more to support the local guys and hopefully establish a good working relationship for future needs. I spent yesterday putting a 50 Amp plug in the garage. Am anxious to play with the new toys this weekend. Thanks to all for your input to my research. I may be looking to you all in the future for advice on "how to" questions. I haven't been welding that long so I can get things to stay together, but they are not very pretty in the process. Just need more practice; I guess.
                  Does the 215 require a 50 amp service for 220?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Old Guy View Post

                    Does the 215 require a 50 amp service for 220?
                    it wants to see 29.3 Amps @ 240 VAC for full output See Section 5.3

                    https://www.millerwelds.com/files/ow...72989A_MIL.pdf

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by H80N View Post

                      it wants to see 29.3 Amps @ 240 VAC for full output See Section 5.3

                      https://www.millerwelds.com/files/ow...72989A_MIL.pdf

                      Thank you H80N I was thinking a 30 amp circuit would do it.... Guess not!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Old Guy View Post

                        Thank you H80N I was thinking a 30 amp circuit would do it.... Guess not!
                        If 29.3 amp. , is the max. draw, then I'd suggest that a 30 amp. breaker would be perfect.

                        Norm
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                        • #72
                          Sure is a lot cheaper to run 10ga wire for a 30 amp circuit than 6ga wire for a 50!

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                          • #73
                            It states the following:

                            If a circuit breaker is used in place of a fuse, choose a circuit breaker with time-current curves comparable to the recommended fuse.

                            Max Recommended Standard Fuse Rating In Amperes
                            Time-Delay Fuses -------------- 35 Amps
                            Normal Operating Fuses ------- 40 Amps

                            Max Recommended Input Conductor Length In Feet (Meters) -------- 51 (16)


                            So yes to properly wire it up, you will need more than a 30 Amp circuit.
                            Also don't forget to install the line disconnect device. Or just unplug your welder every time your done, so line surges don't damage anything.
                            Last edited by clint738; 03-07-2017, 08:51 AM.

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                            • #74
                              Back to the topic of the auto settings for .023 wire. They are definitely way off, Miller should make an update for the firmware and make it available to all of us who bought their v.1 machines. That aside I absolutely love my MM215, I have welded all kinds of small projects with everything from .023 -.045 E70S-6 and .035 E71T-11 (flux core) to 4043 in my spoolgun. Except when using the .023, the auto set works very well, of course you need the usual tweaking if welding galvanized or rusty metal etc. <br />
                              There is one thing I haven't been able to figure out. Is there is a way to set a preflow for the spoolgun to eliminate shooting on startup with aluminum? Once you get going it is fine but soots pretty badly at the start.

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                              • #75
                                Hi Everyone. This is my first post here. I have read this whole thread and it has been GREAT. Even (especially?) the parts about retirement. I'm getting up there, too.

                                Anyway, I've been using a Millermatic 130 for about 15 years and love it. We are planning to buy one of the new multiprocess machines for the shop (theatre scene shop at a college). We've pretty much decided on the Multimatic 215 over the Esab 215 because, well, it's a Miller and because it's made in Wisconsin rather than in China.

                                Im concerned about the auto settings issue that y'all have been discussing, especially for the smaller wire size. Does Miller acknowledge the problem? Is the machine production now into version 2? The Esab claims to have a Smart-mig technology that "adjusts to the user." I'm a bit suspicious of that claim, though I haven't read any forums about it. Anyone want to weigh in on this?

                                My other concern is that TIG welding aluminum with the Miltimatic 215 is "not possible", I guess because it can only do DC-TIG. However, I thought you could use very pure helium and an amp setting of around 100 and make very strong (but not real pretty) welds on aluminum using TIG-DC.

                                Thanks for the great info so far.
                                Last edited by Nedomine; 05-11-2017, 12:55 PM.

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