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  • Welding Helmets - sure wish someone did a "Consumer Reports" for welding safety gear

    I purchase safety stuff monthly and can't keep up with the pace of technology especially on helmets -- viewing area, safety standards, etc. Industry seems to have standardized some areas like arc sensors (e.g. 4 per helmet), and most are "roughly" in compliance with the various safety standards (or so they claim). Miller seems to be doing a lot with "shielding" -- protecting the lens and the human with aluminum and silver shells. Lincoln seems to be doing a lot on the clarity of the viewing area with its 4C tech. Unfortunately, there are no web sites I'm aware of comparing, contrasting the advantages, disadvantages of the respective company products. Maybe we can have a "Consumer Reports" like section here on this forum to trade comparisons. The larger welding forum I'm on (WeldingWeb) has stuff on most of the manufacturers, but still lacks the summary competitive comparisons.

  • #2
    Lincolns 4C technology is just a brand name. There is an official standard for lens clarity. I believe they are rated, 1/1/1 being the best or 3/3/3 being the worst.

    all of Miller and Lincolcs hoods are 1/1/1 top quality and the best it can be per that standard. I believe the 4C almost lets you see colors but that's really just a fancy feature. When your under the hood and its dark, color won't matter.

    What are you trying to choose? I get pretty into finding out what the newest and best stuff is as I like to stay up to date. Maybe I can help you.
    if there's a welder, there's a way

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    • #3
      Olivero...You go buy that fancy fighter jet esab hood yet?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Olivero View Post
        Lincolns 4C technology is just a brand name. There is an official standard for lens clarity. I believe they are rated, 1/1/1 being the best or 3/3/3 being the worst.

        all of Miller and Lincolcs hoods are 1/1/1 top quality and the best it can be per that standard. I believe the 4C almost lets you see colors but that's really just a fancy feature. When your under the hood and its dark, color won't matter.

        What are you trying to choose? I get pretty into finding out what the newest and best stuff is as I like to stay up to date. Maybe I can help you.

        Olivero -- looking for quality in next helmets for my shop -- Miller helmets seem sturdier, but the Lincoln 4C sure wins the shooting match for clarity -- it's a tough trade off.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
          Olivero...You go buy that fancy fighter jet esab hood yet?
          Ryan, you should know just as well as I do. Its not being released until January....
          if there's a welder, there's a way

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Auto_Tech View Post


            Olivero -- looking for quality in next helmets for my shop -- Miller helmets seem sturdier, but the Lincoln 4C sure wins the shooting match for clarity -- it's a tough trade off.
            Well,

            Guess it depends on your type of work, If you do all kinds of stuff like I do, having a sturdy helmet really makes the difference, mine gets beat up like theres no tomorrow, Ive had it repainted twice and again, looks like someone hit it with a flap disc.... More than once.

            If you were a TIG welder that just needed that full oh my god experience when welding and it was really vital to have that, I would go with the clarity choice but I have done all kinds and the miller is good enough for me.

            Question really is... Which logo do you like the best?
            if there's a welder, there's a way

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            • #7
              It's a good thought but as you mentioned- with the tech changing so quickly it would be hard for pros to keep up a "Consumer Report" on helmets.

              Best that can be done is the Forums- but again the threads started on each piece of equipment get long and outdated as well.

              Even someone like Olivero's up to date info will only be his opinion- valid but how many products can he test?

              Consumer Reports- the real one for consumer products- has a testing facility so they are actually reporting facts and comparing like products against each other.


              Pro equipment by nature tends to right itself because word spreads quickly in the professional world.





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              • #8
                Eeeek! January? I had no idea. Probably read it someone, but I've slept since then. Plus I'm waiting for you to be the guinea pig. Seems like the brochure also said you have to make fighter pilot noises while you're welding or it wouldn't work right. Weird.

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                • #9
                  Talk to me Goose
                  Ed Conley
                  http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
                  MM252
                  MM211
                  Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
                  TA185
                  Miller 125c Plasma 120v
                  O/A set
                  SO 2020 Bender
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                  • #10
                    Yeah, something about it coming with a Jet joystick type controller for the welder. Not sure how it all works but I have been practicing my machine gun and missile firing sounds for a while now....

                    I think I am ready..
                    if there's a welder, there's a way

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                    • #11
                      http://www.bakersgas.com/ESA07000008...FdgagQodC1AGIQ

                      Woooooo! A price. Not bad at all

                      http://engweld.co.uk/downloads/produ...fact-sheet.pdf

                      Sceeeerd (sound of car stopping) Looks really, Really ugly without the reflective front lens.
                      Last edited by Olivero; 12-01-2016, 04:04 PM.
                      if there's a welder, there's a way

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                      • #12
                        fox two!!<br />
                        fox two!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
                          fox two!!<br />
                          fox two!!
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                          • #14
                            We are the kings of getting off topic...love it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
                              We are the kings of getting off topic...love it.
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