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  • Water/Alcohol based welder?

    Someone told me there was a welder that worked off water mixed with alcohol and I could not believe them.

    SO i checked for myself, turns out it does exist but I am trying to figure out how much good it is? Can you weld stainless and maintain the passive layer or restore it after? How about aluminum?

    http://www.multiplaz.com/about

    What do you guys think?
    if there's a welder, there's a way

  • #2
    First I heard of it. However, it triggers a memory from the history page on Hypertherm's site-when Couch and Dean were refining the process, they used water in the plasma. They have obviously progressed beyond that now. Welding seems a little different in that it's being used for shielding, not cutting, but the whole concept just sounds so counter-intuitive at first. I'm really anxious to see if anyone has any experience with it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Olivero View Post



      What do you guys think?
      2500 bucks is lots of money to try something out..Bob
      Bob Wright

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      • #4
        Yeah, seems like its the all around "solution" to a portable welder but I am just wondering if it could replace a welder like the Dynasty. We have new buildings getting put up and new shops getting set up and I figured I might just recommend that machine, if it was worth anything. But then again, maybe the traditional setup is easier with a bottle of Argon, at least you know what you got.

        2500 is a lot to try it out, not too much on the process versatility, just broadly stating it cuts and welds.
        if there's a welder, there's a way

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        • #5
          Watched a few videos...... weld & cut quality is a whole bunch LESS THAN IMPRESSIVE....

          https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ltiplaz+welder

          Guess I will keep my Dynasties & PM-1000............

          BTW...Made in Russia/China....... bet long term service and support will be fun+interesting...

          Going down to your LWS.... "You want a what..??.. for a what..???..!!!!.."

          http://shop.multiplaz.com/about-us.aspx

          Last edited by H80N; 11-27-2016, 10:16 AM.
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          The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

          “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

          Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

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          Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
          Dynasty 200DX
          Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
          Millermatic 200

          TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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          • #6
            Haha, good enough for me. I saw a picture of someone posted of a weld with that machine, looked like he did TIG blindfolded without shielding gas. Looked horrible. I am going to stick with the traditional way then.
            if there's a welder, there's a way

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            • #7
              Here it is. Horrible.
              if there's a welder, there's a way

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              • #8
                Looks like Ray Charles welded that with his feet.

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                • #9
                  Wow! Nice results for only 2.5 grand! Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should!

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                  • #10
                    So, tell us, who told you?
                    HTP Invertig221 D.V. Water-cooled
                    HTP Pro Pulse 300 MIG
                    HTP Pro Pulse 200 MIG x2
                    HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS
                    HTP Inverarc 200 TLP water cooled
                    HTP Microcut 875SC

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aeronca41 View Post
                      Wow! Nice results for only 2.5 grand! Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should!
                      I saw enough sino-soviet electronics during the cold war.... to know they are not very good at building electronical gadjets
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                      *******************************************
                      The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                      “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                      Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                      My Blue Stuff:
                      Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                      Dynasty 200DX
                      Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                      Millermatic 200

                      TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                      • #12
                        My boss mentioned it to me, saying he heard about it and I should check it out. Now I know what to say...

                        Looks awfull for a weld, I don't think any customer would accept that, does not take a CWI to say that's crap.
                        if there's a welder, there's a way

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