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    I posted a comparison between Miler and Lincoln Electric pricing using data from the public domain and company SEC filings and the Miller Moderator deleted my post --- talk about smelly !

  • #2
    I guess Miller doesn't want anyone to know they're making DOUBLE the profit on their welders --- slimey when they delete posts.

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    • #3
      Oh man, I am terribly upset that Miller electric is turning a profit. How dare those capitalist pigs take advantage of those that care to utilize their quality products as a means to feed their families. That's it, I've had it! I won't buy another miller product for the rest of the day!!

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      • #4
        Gee Francis.... I should be upset that Miller/ITW is a well run profitable company that leads the industry in innovation... quality... and customer service.....????? Not Likely...

        Your rants add nothing useful to the conversation of welding ......

        READ YOUR TERMS of USE

        https://www.millerwelds.com/terms-of-use

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        Why not go back to the RED forum...??.... they don't have one..??.... too bad for you....
        Last edited by H80N; 11-21-2016, 10:22 AM.
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        The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

        “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

        Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

        My Blue Stuff:
        Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
        Dynasty 200DX
        Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
        Millermatic 200

        TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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        • #5
          Gee, making money by making quality products, how dare they!

          They may just be making better products, its like saying a pair of ****ies are cheaper than Levi's and complaining Levi's is making money, its because the quality is better. That's all, take it or leave it. You like cheaper welders, go Red. You like em "expensive" go blue.
          if there's a welder, there's a way

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          • #6
            If that upsets you, for the good of your stress level and blood pressure, please don't go looking at other high-quality companies in other industries. Everyone can choose for themselves whether they think a premium price is worth it for premium quality, or whether they'd rather buy for less. I am not rich by a long shot, but I use an iphone, iPad, Miller welders, and Milwaukee power tools. My phone has never caught fire. My iphone and iPad always work. My Milwaukee tools outlast three of the cheapies I bought before I learned my lesson about quality. My welders always work, and work very well. Many companies have been destroyed by the race to the bottom. I just hope Miller can continue to make a profit so we don't lose yet another quality company. I used to be able to buy a ***tag washer that would last 30+ years; now I get only about a third of that, with luck, from my *****pool /***tag. And once the quality went down to sell for a lower price, they wait a couple of years and raise the price back to where it was when the quality was there.

            Do I wish miller would sell for less? Sure, doesn't everyone want a lower price? Do I want there to be no top quality sources left in any industry? No. So,as stated earlier, buy what you feel is best for you and let others do likewise. No harm, no foul. Live and let live. Just stay on the high road.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by aametalmaster
              Sorry to hurt your feelings but I had some complaints. So I deleted the offending problem as I always have done for the last 9 years. Feel free to start another post just as you have with this one. Maybe the guys over at the Lincoln Forum will feel better for you. Please stick around and learn something...Bob
              Bob

              I was one of the ones who complained and flagged FrancisJ's post.....

              a juvenile attempt to promote RED and denigrate Miller....

              not a very friendly act..... considering ... he is a GUEST in Miller's house...

              maybe he would be happier elsewhere..........

              BTW... removal of offensive posts is SOP.... nothing sinister about it....

              Maybe FrancisJ forgot to read the TERMS of USE

              https://www.millerwelds.com/terms-of-use

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              Last edited by H80N; 11-21-2016, 05:29 PM.
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              *******************************************
              The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

              “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

              Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

              My Blue Stuff:
              Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
              Dynasty 200DX
              Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
              Millermatic 200

              TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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              • #8
                Maybe he should start a "Red Machines Matter" self help group and stand in traffic with the rest of the crybabies. PROFIT! GASP, the horror! Evil greedy corporations making money in America, building top quality machines in America, by Americans, making jobs in America. We should all definitely start standing in traffic now demanding our free Lincoln Obama Welders, I mean they are made in Meheco, and China, and Italy, and... How'd that Mexican NFL game turn out by the way? Friggin retards.
                Ryan
                __________________________________________________
                DYNASTY 350 w/Wireless pedal
                COOLMATE 3.5
                CK WF1
                MILLERMATIC 350P w/Bernard BTB300 w/XR-A Python 25'
                MULTIMATIC 200 w/Spoolmate 100 w/TIG w/Wireless pedal
                SPECTRUM 375 X-Treme
                (2) DIGITAL ELITE helmets
                Weld-Mask goggles/hood
                OPTREL e684 helmet
                SMITH torches
                HARRIS torches

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                • #9
                  Uh oh, xRyan must be one of them patriotic types, holding on to his welding rods and bibles. How dare you show patriotism and pride in America. All welders matter.

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                  • #10
                    Hi, FrancisJ. Your thread titled "Lincoln's Warranty now beats Miller's" has not been deleted. It is available here:
                    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...-s?view=stream

                    If you are referring to another thread, let us know and we will look into it.

                    Threads and posts are only removed if they are spam or they violate our website Terms of Use. You can access the Terms of Use here: https://www.millerwelds.com/terms-of-use

                    Thank you,
                    Miller Electric Mfg. Co.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FrancisJ View Post
                      I posted a comparison between Miler and Lincoln Electric pricing using data from the public domain and company SEC filings and the Miller Moderator deleted my post --- talk about smelly !
                      Speaking of smelly, it looks like you owe MILLER an apology.

                      Griff

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by griff01 View Post

                        Speaking of smelly, it looks like you owe MILLER an apology.

                        Griff
                        Oooooooh.

                        Miller is not just a brand or a welder, its way of welding. I love how defensive we all get about Miller
                        if there's a welder, there's a way

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Olivero View Post

                          Oooooooh.

                          Miller is not just a brand or a welder, its way of welding. I love how defensive we all get about Miller
                          I don't know about you guys but they (Miller) have made me millions $$$$$ over the last 40 years. And I have my w2's to prove it ...Bob
                          Bob Wright

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                          • #14
                            Yup yup. Made a lot of stuff with them blue monsters.
                            if there's a welder, there's a way

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                            • #15
                              The culture here on the Millerwelds forums is supportive and helpful

                              Where members work together to resolve equipment and technique issues…

                              It is a cooperative community of like minded individuals

                              Sharing expertise and knowledge…. People helping people….

                              So…. When someone comes on the scene and tries to splatter manure….

                              It is no wonder that Many members will take umbrage

                              Last edited by H80N; 11-22-2016, 04:30 PM.
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                              *******************************************
                              The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                              “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                              Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                              My Blue Stuff:
                              Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                              Dynasty 200DX
                              Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                              Millermatic 200

                              TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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