30a to lincoln 256

[Willvis]

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-Industrial/MS3106A16S-1PW?qs=jvB%252BdWhGd41c5unZ8BXE0g==

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-Industrial/97-3057-1008?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvlX3nhDDO4AFIdN6McdKzVNc2dGsz19gM%3D

[Willvis]

Look back at my other post. 654-MS3106A16S-1PW and 97-3057-1008 are the parts you need. If you cut off the miller connector you will have to map out the colors of the wires to the pins on the plug. Then swap the wire colours for the pin letters i posted. Or you could just buy the miller part #s i posted aswell for another $50 and you dont have to cut anything.

[Pdiesel]

Hey willvis I found the plug number on my welder.i think I want to just cut the end off my spoolgun to plug into the Lincoln I found the number on the plug in the Lincoln it is CAR3102A165-1SW 1506. Would you possibly know what plug I can get to plug in direct? Thank you!

[Willvis]

I was working on a trailer yesterday and realized that trailer wire is probably the easiest source of 7 wire cable if you go the adapter route

[Meltedmetal]

I think the spools guns are the same voltage but push-pulls are different? The 30a is supposed to run at 0-30v (that is what the wc-24 outputs anyways) and not sure about the lincoln spool guns..

The Lincoln Magnum Spool Gun Module appears to output 5-28 VDC, so close enough for Rock 'n Roll.

---Meltedmetal

[FusionKing]

And their spoolguns suck.Bob

I could only imagine.....

[aametalmaster]

Getting the Lincoln spoolgun would make the most sense.

And their spoolguns suck.Bob

[Willvis]

In an old post cruiser said voltage is the same. And yes buying a Lincoln gun would make sense! If I had the money to do so.. if anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated

I think the spools guns are the same voltage but push-pulls are different? The 30a is supposed to run at 0-30v (that is what the wc-24 outputs anyways) and not sure about the lincoln spool guns. The push-pulls are supposed to run at 0-24v. I was expecting the spool gun would run slower on my lincoln because of that but it actually seems to run faster then intended. All that means is that the synergic settings get messed up. Standard CV doesn't know or care what the voltage or wirefeed speed is, you as the user are gonna set it to where it runs good.

want to further confuse thing? I pulled my spoolmatic 30a apart(was checking for gas leaks) and the motor says 24v on it. Also I believe the xr30a and spoolmatic 30a are esentially the same? So maybe it's just the wc-24 that puts out the 0-30v for some weird reason. Maybe a miller tech could clear this up since if an xr30a came up for a good price I might purchase one for the lincoln.

[Willvis]

Ya its the female version of whats on the 30a. That way you can just make a short pigtail adapter. You would need some wire to connect the 2 togethor. Probably see if you can get some 16/4 and 16/3 sjow wire from an electrical place since there are 7 wires. Or do the el chepo method like me and just use single wires and rap it all in electrical tape. If you dont want to ever use it again on a miller then ya you just need the lincoln connectors. You'll have to map the letters on the plug to the wire colors. I wanted to be able to use my spool gun on my trailblazer and lincoln welder thats why i went with an adapter. Im suprised no ones doesn't just sell an adapter.

[Pdiesel]

I looked up the parts. The one looks like it has 4 holes on one end that is what's messing with me.

[Pdiesel]

And sorry for asking so many questions. Lol I just dont know anything about it so I'm trying to get a grip on it

[Pdiesel]

Willvis. What are the plugs u say needed for Miller? To hook the spool gun directly to the Lincoln would be just the first plug correct?

[Willvis]

no problem! Just went through it myself about a month ago and couldn't find the information anywhere so it took a bit or research. It would be nice to have a sticky on the forum with various amphenol part #s and usage.

[Pdiesel]

Willvis. You are THE MAN! thank you. I will get everything ordered and try it out. Thank you again

[Willvis]

Sorry got busy yesterday
for the lincoln end you will need the following parts:

654-MS3106A16S-1PW (note: I had bought 654-MS3106A16S-1P which ended up having the wrong clocking. It still worked I just had to cut a new notch to make it line up with a little dremel tool. This W version should be the correct one)

97-3057-1008

For the miller you will need
MS3101A18-1S
97-3057-1010

I order the parts online usually through mouser or digikey.
Use at your own risk, I don't take any responsibility if the part #s are wrong.
I got the wiring diagrams through the spoolmatic manual and mk cobras manuals.
All I ask in return is that you confirm it all worked when you do it so other can share the information.

Then make the following connections:
Lincoln to Miller
A to C
B to B
C to E
D to F
G to H
E to D
F to G

For reference the lincoln 7 pinout is:
A - motor lead +
B - motor lead -
C - Pot
D - Wiper
C - Pot
E - switch
F - switch

Miler:
A - not used (grounding wire)
B - motor -
C - Motor +
D - switch
E - Pot
F - wiper
G - gun switch
H - gun switch
I - not used
J - not used