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Comparing machines is a nightmare. I have a MM211 and now i'm looking to start tigging. I want to weld 14 and 16 gauge steel and up to 1/4 inch aluminum. I have a spool gun for 211 and while i like it but i want a nicer looking bead. I think i want HF on start up and some control on bead size. I really like the Dynasty 210 just can not swallow the price. I'm also going back and forth if i need air cooled torch vs coolant. I would like to spend 3k or less with the most features and reliable company for support.
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To stay under $3K and be versatile enough.... I would look at the SYNC 210Originally posted by davidmelley View Post
https://www.millerwelds.com/equipmen...welders-m00488
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Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...
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Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
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Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
Millermatic 200
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The new Sync 210's you can use a spoolgun also. Nice machine...BobBob WrightComment
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HTP 221 is an awesome tig.HTP Invertig221 D.V. Water-cooled
HTP Pro Pulse 300 MIG
HTP Pro Pulse 200 MIG x2
HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS
HTP Inverarc 200 TLP water cooled
HTP Microcut 875SCComment
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I have the htp221, it's a decent machine. <br />
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Are you ruling out used machines?Comment
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Yes don't have enough knowledge to evaluate a used machine. I looked at the htp221 just not sure if i need support if it would be available. I have a friend with a snyc 250 he would sell for 1500 but the thing is huge with the coolmate its over 450lbs. I'm thinking about just saving more while i take tig class at the community college. This will probably tell me what i can live with and without .
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The Syncrowave 250 (for $1500), if it is in decent shape, would be an excellent machine. However, you need to evaluate your electrical supply. The Syncrowave takes a LOT more power than the other machines mentioned.
HTH
GriffComment
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Whenever I needed support, it was always available.Originally posted by davidmelley View PostHTP Invertig221 D.V. Water-cooled
HTP Pro Pulse 300 MIG
HTP Pro Pulse 200 MIG x2
HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS
HTP Inverarc 200 TLP water cooled
HTP Microcut 875SCComment
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If the HTP needs service you will need to ship it to Elk Grove, IL.... (or Italy)...........
Miller has hundreds of authorized local service centers.......
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The more you know, The better you know, How little you know
“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”
Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...
My Blue Stuff:
Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
Dynasty 200DX
Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
Millermatic 200
TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000Comment
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No, you don't.Originally posted by H80N View PostHTP Invertig221 D.V. Water-cooled
HTP Pro Pulse 300 MIG
HTP Pro Pulse 200 MIG x2
HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS
HTP Inverarc 200 TLP water cooled
HTP Microcut 875SCComment
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I haven't had any issues with mine yet. But the one time I called about a technical question the tech guy seemed to be pretty good. Got me squared away at least. <br />
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I'd hope I wouldn't have to send the machine to Italy!Comment
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The importer is a small company with an excellent reputation ...... but they are a small companyOriginally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post.
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The more you know, The better you know, How little you know
“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”
Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...
My Blue Stuff:
Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
Dynasty 200DX
Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
Millermatic 200
TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000Comment
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OPTION #1.....Does HTP have an authorized service network that can perform warranty repairs?Originally posted by OscarJr View Post
OPTION #2.....Or to have a failure repaired during the warranty period, would you be required to ship it back?
OPTION #3.....Or do they do it like Everlast and talk you thru fixing it yourself?
This is what has kept me from using them. Just no definite here. They could be the worlds best machines. (too small for me now) I like Miller
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Miller Dynasty 700...OH YEA BABY!!
MM 350P...PULSE SPRAYIN' MONSTER
Miller Dynasty 280 with AC independent expansion card
Miller Dynasty 200 DX "Blue Lightning"
Miller Bobcat 225 NT (what I began my present Biz with!)
Miller 30-A Spoolgun
Miller WC-115-A
Miller Spectrum 300
Miller 225 Thunderbolt (my first machine bought new 1980)
Miller Digital Elite Titanium 9400
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There are some tradeoffs that you might consider....
If you need to sell or trade up... Miller equipment keeps a VERY high resale value...
maybe not so much for this Italian import..
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Why is it that even 20-30 year old Miller equipment is in high demand and still brings top dollar in the used market??..
There is a reason for the price difference...
so... how much would you be really saving long term..??
Anything??
just a couple of things to think about before you decide..
The HTP 221 is made by Stel in Italy.
http://www.stelgroup.it/scheda.aspx?IDp ... ig&LAN=ITA
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*******************************************
The more you know, The better you know, How little you know
“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”
Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...
My Blue Stuff:
Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
Dynasty 200DX
Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
Millermatic 200
TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000Comment
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Very true.Comment
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