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  • Diversion 165 Problem "Poped then smoked"

    So back in 2014 I created the discussion a problem linked below.
    I was able to come up with a work around this problem until today.

    For the last two years, I simply powered my fan on my diversion with an outside power source. It has been working great!! until today.

    But, I don't think it was my "work around". I simply forgot to turn my fan on today and was welding larger material than normal.

    I made about 10 tacks and on the first beed my machine made a noise. (Kind of a POP with some smoke)

    I assume that I fried my mother board which is about $750.

    Is there any other logical failure that may have occured?
    A place to talk about how-to, techniques, troubleshooting, welding processes, welders, plasma cutters or other metalworking tools.

  • #2
    Sorry to hear that..... does not sound good...............

    Originally posted by H80N View Post

    08-13-2014, 10:28 AM.... Technical Support

    At this point I would probably Phone/Contact Miller and have a TIG tech call you back with advice

    https://www.millerwelds.com/service/contactus.html



    They have some great Tech Support folks with intimate knowledge of the machines
    I suggested you call them 2 years ago....

    .back then it was probably a warrantee issue...Today..??... probably not...
    Last edited by H80N; 10-04-2016, 12:14 PM.
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    • #3
      If you can get the smoke back in I'm sure it will be fine.

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      • #4
        So now I'm conisdering the best option to replace this unit. Assuming the worst...a mother board will cost $850.

        The shop also has a used Syncwave 250 with new gauges and a few other new parts. They are asking $1500 for it without the water cooler.

        I typically weld thing aluminum 6061/7005 0.48'~0.07" Thick. Never nothing thicker than 1/8". I weld about 150 hours a year.

        I'm a little more than a hobbiest. Would I be better off buying a used Syncwave 250 than fixing the Diversion?

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        • #5
          I have a Sync 250 bought it new around 1988 about 1/2 of its life was spent in heavy shop use the rest was as a hobby machine. It has never let me down and is still running great today in my son's fab shop. It welds aluminum as good as any other machine on the market. I would try and get them to throw in the water cooler.

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          • #6
            The Sync 250 would be a good option....

            a cooler and a 20 series water cooled torch would make it complete............
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            • #7
              He said he'd take $1500 with out the cooler. Said the water is cooler alone is worth $2,000. I have no idea if this is reasonable or not. This is at a certified Miller repair location. The water cooler is miller brand.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ggodwin View Post
                He said he'd take $1500 with out the cooler. Said the water is cooler alone is worth $2,000. I have no idea if this is reasonable or not. This is at a certified Miller repair location. The water cooler is miller brand.
                used and some new coolers can be found for less than $400... so he must be quoting new list "gold plated" price..

                even Ebay

                http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_saca...ooler&_sacat=0

                Heck if you wanted to build one... there is not a lot to them.....

                http://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/...ad.php?t=39374



                AND... water cooled torches

                http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...ooled&_sacat=0

                Last edited by H80N; 10-05-2016, 10:41 AM.
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                • #9
                  Can you get the serial number so we can look up the age and version of that SYNC 250...??

                  could be recent... or 25 years old.... the Syncrowave 250 has been around for a LONG time in many iteraions
                  Last edited by H80N; 10-05-2016, 11:40 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Need some advice. I'm driving 5 hours this afternoon to look at a Synrowave 250 to purchase.

                    Serial Number: KF945378

                    Seller claims it to be in perfect operating condition. The purchase will include.

                    Syncrowave 250
                    foot pedal
                    3 gallon Bernard water cooler
                    1/2 full bottle of argon

                    possibly have a cart with it.

                    $1800

                    i will be using this unit to weld lite gauge aluminum and steal.

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                    • #11

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ggodwin View Post
                        Need some advice. I'm driving 5 hours this afternoon to look at a Synrowave 250 to purchase.

                        Serial Number: KF945378

                        Seller claims it to be in perfect operating condition. The purchase will include.

                        Syncrowave 250
                        foot pedal
                        3 gallon Bernard water cooler
                        1/2 full bottle of argon

                        possibly have a cart with it.

                        $1800

                        i will be using this unit to weld lite gauge aluminum and steal.
                        should do just fine on both thin & thick stuff......amperage range from 5-310 Amps AC/DC

                        KF945378 would have been built in the second half of 1995....

                        Here is the manual

                        https://www.millerwelds.com/files/ow.../O353J_MIL.pdf

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                        Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                        My Blue Stuff:
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                        Dynasty 200DX
                        Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                        Millermatic 200

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                        • #13
                          It is heavy though.................... 355lbs...for the welder alone...prob another 100lbs+ for acces.....
                          Last edited by H80N; 10-12-2016, 12:36 PM.
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                          Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                          My Blue Stuff:
                          Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                          Dynasty 200DX
                          Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                          Millermatic 200

                          TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                          • #14
                            Ha! Nothing on Helga....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
                              Ha! Nothing on Helga....
                              Yup.... Helga comes in about 870lbs in her underwear................ (Airco/Miller 330)
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                              “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                              Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                              My Blue Stuff:
                              Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                              Dynasty 200DX
                              Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                              Millermatic 200

                              TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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