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    Is it possible to practice tig welding without argon? Thanks for any help

    Here's one of them, is this any good with 140ST?

    This is what I've found that caught my attention 5pc for 10 basically... https://www.weldingcity.com/tig-tung...-2.4mm-x7.html

    For filler metal 3/32" which one will be good, er70s3 or er70s6 for s6 version just has more oxidizers for dirty steel. is 2lbs be enough for a while.Shop around for the best price with shipping.

    Is 309L a good filler metal to weld steel to stainless and even to weld steel to that has a little rust?

    Here's another that I'm looking at: http://www.weldingcity.com/filler-me...free-ship.html

    Or could you guys list some out down below.
    Filler Metals - Stick :: Stainless Steel :: E309L :: 5-Lb E309L-16 3/32
    http://www.weldingcity.com
    AWS Spec A5 4 Class E309L-16 Core wire 3/32 2 5mm length 12 300mm Titania coated electrode coating color may be different from picture Typical weld metal properties wt% C
    Tags: filler metal, stainless, tungsten
  • #2
    "Is it possible to practice tig welding without argon?"

    only if you have helium gas to shield with...otherwise you will burn up the tungsten and destroy the torch

    Sounds like you really NEED to read an understand the basics

    https://www.millerwelds.com/~/media/...s/gtawbook.pdf
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    • #3
      put the crack pipe down.
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      • #4
        You cannot weld without some type of shield, period. TIG is some type of inert gas like, Argon & helium. Tigging without it will get you nowhere and will not account for practice, its like practicing swimming in sand.

        The sticks you quoted are for stick welding, not TIG. 309L is a good choice though.

        For electrodes, get E3 electrodes, they can be used for any metal.
        if there's a welder, there's a way

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        • #5
          Read more...do more...
          blue stock,
          miller shopmaster 300, s22a feeder, s30 spool gun, hf251, arc pig
          miller maxstar 150 STL
          miller maxstar 210
          miller a bp 330
          non blue,
          Lincoln weldanpower 150 1982 model
          esab plasma
          Hobart ironman 210, spool gun
          victor oxy acy set
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          • #6
            Learning always cost something, pay Me now or Pay Me later, You still got to pay, and it's usually cheaper up front.

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            • #7
              I have no idea what he's asking.

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              • #8
                He doesn't either
                blue stock,
                miller shopmaster 300, s22a feeder, s30 spool gun, hf251, arc pig
                miller maxstar 150 STL
                miller maxstar 210
                miller a bp 330
                non blue,
                Lincoln weldanpower 150 1982 model
                esab plasma
                Hobart ironman 210, spool gun
                victor oxy acy set
                thousands of snap on tools, 3 large boxes and tons of automotive equip.
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                • #9
                  Back to the question...you can practice as long as your machine is turned off..I guess that means you'll be pretending to weld.....and thats not practicing
                  blue stock,
                  miller shopmaster 300, s22a feeder, s30 spool gun, hf251, arc pig
                  miller maxstar 150 STL
                  miller maxstar 210
                  miller a bp 330
                  non blue,
                  Lincoln weldanpower 150 1982 model
                  esab plasma
                  Hobart ironman 210, spool gun
                  victor oxy acy set
                  thousands of snap on tools, 3 large boxes and tons of automotive equip.

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                  • #10
                    The answer is NO,
                    you can however practice feeding the filler wire through your fingers while sitting on the couch watching tv. I did it for a couple months before taking TIG classes and it really helped.
                    Last edited by Phewzer; 04-16-2016, 02:35 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Phewzer View Post
                      The answer is NO,
                      you can however practice feeding the filler wire through your fingers while sitting on the couch watching tv. I did it for a couple months before taking TIG classes and it really helped.

                      You have time to sit on the couch and watch TV? Shame!
                      HTP Invertig221 D.V. Water-cooled
                      HTP Pro Pulse 300 MIG
                      HTP Pro Pulse 200 MIG x2
                      HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS
                      HTP Inverarc 200 TLP water cooled
                      HTP Microcut 875SC

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                      • #12
                        Wow..I don't think I belong on this subject anymore...good luck
                        blue stock,
                        miller shopmaster 300, s22a feeder, s30 spool gun, hf251, arc pig
                        miller maxstar 150 STL
                        miller maxstar 210
                        miller a bp 330
                        non blue,
                        Lincoln weldanpower 150 1982 model
                        esab plasma
                        Hobart ironman 210, spool gun
                        victor oxy acy set
                        thousands of snap on tools, 3 large boxes and tons of automotive equip.

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                        • #13
                          We all had to start somewhere.... and ALL of us asked some pretty strange questions as we were learning

                          am sure that after some study and much practice... the OP will pick up and learn TIG skills

                          So... NIFTYWELD... do not give up or worry about any sarcastic comments... those making them were once asking similar questions...
                          Last edited by H80N; 04-16-2016, 05:19 PM.
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                          *******************************************
                          The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                          “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                          Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                          My Blue Stuff:
                          Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                          Dynasty 200DX
                          Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                          Millermatic 200

                          TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                          • #14
                            I don't mean to be sarcastic or imply levels of intelligence but 5 minutes of reading about tigging will go a very long way...few hours and a few more practice hours and you'll find that you'll answer your own questions about the basics. I've burned plenty of tungstens, used the wrong ones, used machines not even originally set up for tig and plenty of other dumb things...a little time practicing is better than anything...you'll quickly learn or go broke buying consumables or repairing your rig. I do apologize for my comments but I honestly didn't mean them in put down type manner...you really need to watch someone who knows or read about the process. It's second nature after you get the hang of it
                            blue stock,
                            miller shopmaster 300, s22a feeder, s30 spool gun, hf251, arc pig
                            miller maxstar 150 STL
                            miller maxstar 210
                            miller a bp 330
                            non blue,
                            Lincoln weldanpower 150 1982 model
                            esab plasma
                            Hobart ironman 210, spool gun
                            victor oxy acy set
                            thousands of snap on tools, 3 large boxes and tons of automotive equip.

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                            • #15
                              Hahaha, it's pretty fun learning and practicing. Thanks guys, I'll still bring up more random questions for you guys to answer. I know you guys have my back somehow no matter how sarcastic.

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