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    I have a few welding g projects I want to do one is put a steel fence in I plan on making 1 section a day since I have to cut shape weld paint then install the fence so I don't need a super long duty cycle. I also want to make a truck camper shell out of 18ga steel. I was wondering if the 141 miller is enough for that slso want to be able to tepair a cracked trailer or truck frame if thry ever break so I want something that can do that as well if needed. I have 1 weld I need to do on a alunium boat so I was wondering if the 141 can work with a spool gun. I plan on using Flux core with the welder for outside use and since getting gas is a huge hassle due to it needing to come on a ferry lots of paperwork I see that the 212 can select Flux and the 141 doesn't have that for the auto set so I was wondering if the auto set works with Flux core wire

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    Originally posted by haha49 View Post
    I have a few welding g projects I want to do one is put a steel fence in I plan on making 1 section a day since I have to cut shape weld paint then install the fence so I don't need a super long duty cycle. I also want to make a truck camper shell out of 18ga steel. I was wondering if the 141 miller is enough for that slso want to be able to tepair a cracked trailer or truck frame if thry ever break so I want something that can do that as well if needed. I have 1 weld I need to do on a alunium boat so I was wondering if the 141 can work with a spool gun. I plan on using Flux core with the welder for outside use and since getting gas is a huge hassle due to it needing to come on a ferry lots of paperwork I see that the 212 can select Flux and the 141 doesn't have that for the auto set so I was wondering if the auto set works with Flux core wire
    The MM141 is just NOT enough machine to do frame or trailer welding...

    the new MM211 Inverter looks like an excellent choice though....

    https://www.millerwelds.com/equipmen...021572-no-name

    Last edited by H80N; 04-12-2016, 12:48 PM.
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    • #3
      Kms only sells the 222 not the 211 can't find q local place to get one big price jump as well I will only have 120 20amp service for a good while as well

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      • #4
        Originally posted by haha49 View Post
        Kms only sells the 222 not the 211 can't find q local place to get one big price jump as well I will only have 120 20amp service for a good while as well
        The MM211 runs on both 120 & 240

        https://www.millerwelds.com/files/ow...65809B_MIL.pdf

        think you will outgrow the MM141 pretty quickly

        Not familiar with the 222
        Last edited by H80N; 04-12-2016, 01:33 PM.
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        • #5
          You're not going to be happy with a 120v only machine. And don't let the concept of MIG welding make you think it's easy. That is a common misconception so Home Depot and lowes and harbor freight can sell a ship load of the lower end wire welders...one has to wonder how many of those little machines have been welded with once and moth balled... The only easy about MIG welding is doing a bad job of it.<br />
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          I have a little 120v wire feed machine in my fleet. It has a place, not much of one, but it does serve me on some cases. <br />
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          As for the small spool gun on aluminum boat repairs, I haven't the foggiest idea. I would say the process of choice for that is certainly TIG. <br />
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          And for the welding gases coming by ferry, they're going to be inert gases if that makes a difference. Sounds like you're out in the boonies eh?

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          • #6
            My first mig was a 140, outgrew it in just a couple of months. I picked up a 211, the old transformer unit that works well for what I use it for except the duty cycle on it is low. Just picked up a 252 for the higher duty cycle. Buy bug the first time, you will save money.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
              You're not going to be happy with a 120v only machine. And don't let the concept of MIG welding make you think it's easy. That is a common misconception so Home Depot and lowes and harbor freight can sell a ship load of the lower end wire welders...one has to wonder how many of those little machines have been welded with once and moth balled... The only easy about MIG welding is doing a bad job of it.

              More correct words have never been spoke! I work with a d-bag that thinks he is a machinist.....well actually, he is the best at everything.....anyhow, his famous quote, "anybody can weld, especially MIG". I have offered for him to come show me how. On second thought, I don't want his d×%kbeaters touching my machines. O.K. rant off.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Unibit View Post
                My first mig was a 140, outgrew it in just a couple of months. I picked up a 211, the old transformer unit that works well for what I use it for except the duty cycle on it is low. Just picked up a 252 for the higher duty cycle. Buy bug the first time, you will save money.

                So true!

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                • #9
                  Why just buy 1??? Get a couple or three
                  blue stock,
                  miller shopmaster 300, s22a feeder, s30 spool gun, hf251, arc pig
                  miller maxstar 150 STL
                  miller maxstar 210
                  miller a bp 330
                  non blue,
                  Lincoln weldanpower 150 1982 model
                  esab plasma
                  Hobart ironman 210, spool gun
                  victor oxy acy set
                  thousands of snap on tools, 3 large boxes and tons of automotive equip.

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                  • #10
                    We have a mm 135 at work ,you can do small jobs with it . I adapted a 100 spool gun to it for alum but it's way to small plus alum is way hard to work with. Now a real expert could do better with it but it's hard to use for a gegular guy trying to weld.
                    The 211 sounds better. From what I read tig is the best for alum.

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                    • #11
                      Two strategiez for getting 220V. The first is to buy a plug compatible with the wife's dryer's plug. Get an extension cord. AWG 10 or AWG 8. Customarily, that is a 50A circuit, so, with a MIG welder, you are not going to pop the breaker unless you are repairing WWII battleships in your back yard. The second is to call Larry the Electrician, and pay what he asks to have another 220 run in your work area. Don't let him sell you on 30A!!! Get 50A!!! If you ever buy a stick machine, or a TIG, you'll be glad you did that!

                      Second issue. A stereo salesman gave me this advice in 1974. Buy the best unit the wallet can afford. Hold nothing back. You'll be happier with it longer. I still have my Sansui 8 deluxe, and I still have my MM 210. Can't kill the 210. If there is a higher number today, e.g. 212, get that. Wait for them to offer the spool gun as a freebie, then pounce! Enjoy. I bought mine in 2002, and would NEVER sell it.
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                      • #12
                        How about the Sansui-thing 8 deluxe? Would you sell that?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ryanjones2150
                          How about the Sansui-thing 8 deluxe? Would you sell that?
                          NO! The 1970's receivers had absolutely TERRIBLE FM receivers, but they had incredible numbers of input and output ports. The sound quality rivals today's receivers, and there has been almost a half century to develop better. Today's receivers don't have ports for turntables. The Sansui 8 Deluxe has ports for 2. I have a Marantz direct drive turntable. If I bought a new receiver, it would be orphaned.

                          One thing my Sansui doesn't have is a subwoofer port. Modern subwoofers have a way to compensate for that, tho. You hook them up in parallel with the other speakers. They do the signal split inside the subwoofer.

                          Other things it doesn't have are Wi-Fi and MP3. Don't need 'em. Got a killer CD collection. No DVD. No Blu-Ray. Just CD.

                          Only if someone was to offer me an absolutely ridiculous amount of money, say $2,000, would I turn it loose. Still got the papers and it still looks pristine. I baby my stuff.

                          Wouldn't sell my South Bend 9, my Jet vertical mill, or my Atlas horizontal mill. All primo condition, all babied.
                          Last edited by buffumjr; 04-13-2016, 04:46 PM.
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                          • #14
                            That SB 9" probably hates you. Maybe you should let me borrow it for the next 30 years or so. You could always turn stuff down on your Marantz if you need to. <br />
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                            And my offer on the sansui-thing was gonna be like $1999.00, so we just ain't gonna be able to make a deal on that thing.

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                            • #15
                              "HaHa," believe what Ryan is telling you about the deceptive appearance with MIG welding that you just set two knobs and pull a trigger and build things.

                              No, it's not rocket science, but I tell new guys that MIG welding is the best way to make a good-looking bad weld. You can learn pretty fast how to lay down beads that might impress your pals, while behind the bead there is way too little penetration. Whatever gear you end up with, get some good instruction, and consider the fact that even the most skilled pro welders often start their day by running a few test coupons for a warm up, and bending them in a vise just to confirm that they got the results they thought they would get.

                              Especially if you are going to work on boats. Or trailers, or trailer hitches.

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