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    I am wanting to buy an older sycrowave 250, but will need to bring more power out to the garage to run it. Here are my specs;

    The house has 200amps of service to the main panel.
    It also has a 150amp off-peak sub-panel which runs the dryer(30a), water heater(30a), baseboard heat(20a) and electric furnace(100a).
    The welder location is just under 55 feet of wire length to the main panel, and ran through sch40 outdoor conduit
    The syncrowave draws max 92amps at 230volts
    I will NOT be using it heavily(150amps MAX), or all that often, before I move to a shop in two months. (Running my first small business)
    I also have no issue turing the off-peak panel off, while welding.

    I have read other threads of guys claiming they have ran this machine on 50amps for some time with no issue. Others claim this can damage the welder. Since this is pretty much temporary, I want to save $$ on the wiring, but not burn my house down. I have plenty of experience wiring outlets of all sizes, as well as a lot of experience running this machine. I just cannot remember what we ran in the past for this particular machine.

    So my two questions are, can I run this welder on 50amps safely, and if so, should I run a 6 or 8 gauge wire?



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    Originally posted by Aerowave14 View Post
    I am wanting to buy an older sycrowave 250, but will need to bring more power out to the garage to run it. Here are my specs;

    The house has 200amps of service to the main panel.
    It also has a 150amp off-peak sub-panel which runs the dryer(30a), water heater(30a), baseboard heat(20a) and electric furnace(100a).
    The welder location is just under 55 feet of wire length to the main panel, and ran through sch40 outdoor conduit
    The syncrowave draws max 92amps at 230volts
    I will NOT be using it heavily(150amps MAX), or all that often, before I move to a shop in two months. (Running my first small business)
    I also have no issue turing the off-peak panel off, while welding.

    I have read other threads of guys claiming they have ran this machine on 50amps for some time with no issue. Others claim this can damage the welder. Since this is pretty much temporary, I want to save $$ on the wiring, but not burn my house down. I have plenty of experience wiring outlets of all sizes, as well as a lot of experience running this machine. I just cannot remember what we ran in the past for this particular machine.

    So my two questions are, can I run this welder on 50amps safely, and if so, should I run a 6 or 8 gauge wire?


    A Sync 250 wants to see approx 96amps @ 230vac for full output.... you can run it with reduced output with reduced input amps available
    no way to run it at full capacity on 50amps... so figure about half amp capacity
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    • #3
      It will run on 6 /50

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      • #4
        I ran mine for awhile on a 50 amp breaker. When needing more amps such as welding aluminum it would do it until the breaker tripped. Never had an issue with it limiting power just how long until the breaker tripped. After a while the breaker got weak & would trip more frequently. I know have it on a 100 amp breaker.
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        • #5
          You need to understand that because of the duty cycle, the electrical code does not require the same gauge wire that a "normal" 100 amp circuit will require. If you check the manual, you only need 6 gauge wire to run that Syncrowave at full blast. The manual recommends a 110 amp breaker with 6 gauge wire so long as you keep the distance below 153 feet from the panel. The circuit has to be a dedicated welder circuit though to be fully compliant with code. I now have my Syncrowave 250 wired as per the manual. But for a long time I had it on a 50 amp circuit (with 6 gauge wire) and it ran fine up to about 200 amps or so. More than that and it would trip the breaker.

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