Trying to decide which welder to buy, please help me!

['Stang]

I would go for separate units, a Millermatic 211 and a Diversion 180 Tig. (maybe step up to Sync 210 or Dynasty 210DX....)

yes the initial investment will be greater... but...

the combination units ar a real compromise in the TIG capabilities... once you experience the versatility of a dedicated full featured TIG machine... you will never go back...

X2 I have the 211 with the spool gun. Great combo! Good to have separate units. One breaks-you have a backup! The Dynasty 200DX is great!! If you go this route, your options are wide open thin on materiel. Add helium-Gate is open!!
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[H80N]

Check ESAB or Lincoln they have machines that fit your needs also

But..... Why take a step down when Miller builds the best.... ???...

[pat h]

Check ESAB or Lincoln they have machines that fit your needs also

[Broccoli1]

bpnz,

You will want to go with the Multimatic 200 as it will run fine on 50Hz power, the Millermatic 211 is not recommended for 50Hz power.

Kevin

Why does it spec it in the manual?

and it is an inverter- so why does it NOT work on 50Hz?

[ryanjones2150]

You will outgrow the diversion quickly. You say you don't weld a lot of aluminum, but once you can weld aluminum, those jobs seem to find their way to your work bench. And it sounds like an ordeal to get this machine to your country, so may as well only do it once. Get something that you can grow into and will be able to take advantage of as your skills improve.

[H80N]

As muddled as this has gotten… I asked “"MillerKevin"” about 50HZ operation..... and this was his reply

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From: Kevin Schuh [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:14 AM
To: Heiti
Subject: RE: NEW MM211 50HZ...??

Heiti,

The New Millermatic 211 is not recommended for operation on 50Hz power.

[Miller Kevin]

bpnz,

You will want to go with the Multimatic 200 as it will run fine on 50Hz power, the Millermatic 211 is not recommended for 50Hz power.

Kevin

['Stang]

I would go for separate units, a Millermatic 211 and a Diversion 180 Tig. (maybe step up to Sync 210 or Dynasty 210DX....)

yes the initial investment will be greater... but...

the combination units ar a real compromise in the TIG capabilities... once you experience the versatility of a dedicated full featured TIG machine... you will never go back...

Second that! I have the MM211 with the spool gun. Sold the Diversion 180 to a buddy when I bought my Dynasty. The MM211 and Diversion are a great combo! They cover most of the needs in a garage, or small shop! Hope this helps!

[H80N]

yes it does- from the manual you posted
Amperes Input at Rated Load Output, 50/60HZ, Single−Phase

You are right Broc....

Don't know how I missed it.....Oldtimers...??

page 15 0f the PDF.. TABLE HEADER... section "4-2. Unit Specifications"

[Aeronca41]

Whole discussion is made more interesting (confusing?) by going to the EQUIPMENT tab and selecting mig. There is then a filter for 50/60 hz vs 60 HZ and they only link to 2 machines under 50 hz. -- Invision 352MPa and Alumafeed Synergic. I'm surprised by that- I would certainly think the inverter 211 would handle 50 hz as broccoli1 says-especially since it is right there at the top of the column in the manual. Maybe the new web site isn't quite up to par in that area yet.

[Broccoli1]

It seems as though the left out the 50z capability on their PDF spec sheets but the manual does indicate 50z/60hz.

It is an inverter so it will definitely handle the 50z.

[Broccoli1]

yes it does- from the manual you posted
Amperes Input at Rated Load Output, 50/60HZ, Single−Phase

[bpnz]

BPNZ

I stand corrected... the manual for the latest version MM211 w/inverter technology does not mention 50/60hz s far as I can see..

https://www.millerwelds.com/files/owners-manuals/O265809A_MIL.pdf

Maybe it i an oversight in the lit.....

lol yea as I mentioned above I swear it said it did 50/60 hz the other day as that was one thing I was looking for..

[H80N]

BPNZ

I stand corrected... the manual for the latest version MM211 w/inverter technology does not mention 50/60hz s far as I can see..

https://www.millerwelds.com/files/owners-manuals/O265809A_MIL.pdf

Maybe it i an oversight in the lit.....

[bpnz]

FWIW... the units mentioned should operate just fine on single phase, 230v @ 50hz KiwiPower.....

Actually, that's odd.. I swear the other day I saw the Millermatic 211 supported both 50/60hz.. but it looks like it only supports 60hz on the website.. so that rules that one out..