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will the miller 211 able to weld 3/64 ER5356 ?

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  • will the miller 211 able to weld 3/64 ER5356 ?

    Thinking about getting that miller 211 with the Spool mate 150, but impulse bought a batch 18x 1lb rolls of 3/64 ER5356 wires instead. Now when I check the specs... the spool gun only handles .035 size and Not sure if the miller 211 machine it self will be able to have enough power to weld 3/64 inch diameter ER5356? Or is it ok to use it?

  • #2
    will the miller 211 able to USE 3/64 (about .045) ER5356 spool ?

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    • #3
      not really.
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      • #4
        well...you have now, may as well give a spool a try if it'll feed through the gun. I'm not one to give advice on spool guns since I don't have one, but what do you have to lose? 1lbs of aluminum wire a tip or two?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
          well...you have now, may as well give a spool a try if it'll feed through the gun. I'm not one to give advice on spool guns since I don't have one, but what do you have to lose? 1lbs of aluminum wire a tip or two?
          No, I am planning to get the miller 211 very soon, I am using the Lincoln SP135T right now. Asking if anyone with the Miller 211 can tell if the machine have enought poower to handle 3/64 alumninum ER5356 wires and the drive roller etc... the Spoolmate 150 they recommend says up to .035... but not sure.....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dogdog View Post

            No, I am planning to get the miller 211 very soon, I am using the Lincoln SP135T right now. Asking if anyone with the Miller 211 can tell if the machine have enought poower to handle 3/64 alumninum ER5356 wires and the drive roller etc... the Spoolmate 150 they recommend says up to .035... but not sure.....
            Would bet that the 211 will not be able to maintain proper arc voltage trying to burn 3/64 aluminum... probably get ropey welds and poor penetration...
            just surmising.... best guess... but heck.. give it a try....
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            • #7
              well then...ebay that wire off.

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              • #8
                The Millermatic 211 is really not a large enough power source to handle 3/64 wire. The arc starts would be poor and the overall weld performance would be poor as well so it is not recommended.

                Kevin Schuh
                Service Technician
                Miller Electric Mfg. Co.

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                • #9
                  what would the closest next level miller machine that would weld this ?
                  millermatic 212 or 252 ?

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                  • #10
                    I have an old MM250 (I guess that's comparable to the 252?) and I can throw some 3/64 5356 down without a spoolgun like a bad dog. Now I modified my whip and made it much shorter, but it works **** good. As far as a spoolgun that can throw wire than big....I have no clue, never used one.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
                      I have an old MM250 (I guess that's comparable to the 252?) and I can throw some 3/64 5356 down without a spoolgun like a bad dog. Now I modified my whip and made it much shorter, but it works **** good. As far as a spoolgun that can throw wire than big....I have no clue, never used one.
                      +1.....on the MM252.... with a 30A spoolgun..or other..Push-Pull gun... its a good... reliable workhorse... with enough horsepower for 3/64...

                      https://www.millerwelds.com/en/equip...illermatic-252

                      https://www.millerwelds.com/accessor...push-pull-guns

                      Last edited by H80N; 11-19-2015, 08:10 AM.
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                      • #12
                        I certainly have no argument with the 252 but before you spend that much money on a welding machine to use up 18 lbs. of wire, what are you planning to weld? Is 3/64" ER5356 the appropriate wire for the job? If you can afford that machine and spool gun, I say , go for it. Just be aware that you may end up buying different wire depending on what you want to do anyway. ---Meltedmetal
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                        • #13
                          I say tig it anyway.

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