New miller but getting taken?

[TPM man]

I am looking to buy a Miller 210 or 251 now...but my local keeps prices at MSRP on the millers. Any place to get a good discount?
Thanks!

[ASKANDY]

Where are you at?

You could always call the 1-800-4-miller to find an alternate dealer. You may be forced to do an internet deal.

Andy

[TPM man]

I am in Raleigh NC. Of the two dealers near by I would only trust one...and they are MSRP. ****!

[ASKANDY]

Well dude, I'm in Charlotte and it might be better to come down here and I'll get one of my dealers to take care of you or e-mail me and I'll give you a names and numbers of some of my dealers that will just drop ship you one.

Andy

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[TPM man]

Thanks Andy!
I will email you and get some info!
I don't mind driving to Charlotte for a good deal!
Maybe if I tell my dealer that I am getting a good deal there they will budge...

[tooldude56]

Check out the Quimby welding store on ebay.They are selling the MM210 for $1,260.00 and drop shipping it free to US.They also have the MM251 for $1,770,shipped free.You will also save on sales tax.

tooldude56

[burninbriar]

I had the same problem in my area and I ended up useing Indiana Oxygen.I was very happy with the service I recieved and the shipping was free.I took the liberty to check there prices on what you are looking for.
Miller 251 complete package 1781.77 free shipping.
Miller 210 complete package 1236.77 free shipping.
Hope this helps.

[TPM man]

Those prices are with spoolgun? If so ****!
Let me know!

I also sent Andy my info. I always try to help the local business man out....since I am one...

[lramberson]

Cyberweld.com
Miller 251 complete package 1762.00 free shipping.
Miller 210 complete package 1249.00 free shipping.
Millermatic 210 MIG Welder with Spoolmate 3035 Spoolgun
Cyberweld Price: $1,788.00
Millermatic 251 MIG Welder with Spoolmatic 30A Spoolgun
Cyberweld Price: $2,659.00
No problems with the product from them
Good luck on your decision..
Laurence

[SoCalTA]

I doubt they are with the spoolgun. That package is just the base unit. I purchased mine online at BR Welder. They had a very good price for the MM210 with the spoolgun and free shipping. Most online sites will offer free shipping.

[Scuppers]

Those prices are with spoolgun? If so ****!
Let me know!

I also sent Andy my info. I always try to help the local business man out....since I am one...

TPM man, I know your frustration -- firsthand!

I, too, want to help the local businesses as much as I can, but some of them don't act like they want to be helped. Haven't decided which machine to get as my new welder, but I've been researching price, service, and the like.

The local guys -- with one exception -- don't seem to want to bother with an individual. The prices they quote range from 10% higher than online prices all the way to MSRP. When I mention online prices, they invariably get flustered (with the same sole exception, who acknowledged online competition, but couldn't/didn't want to give me a better quote).

Consumables and accessories seem to have higher margins (online and local prices I've seen tend to be close if not the same). So, one would think the local guys would want that business by competing on the machine's price. Not so, I found out.

I'm not a professional and won't be running the machine 'round-the-clock, so I have a lower likelihood of needing service (and I can take care of routine stuff myself). So, I plan on thoroughly researching options and then buying everything online -- and continue to buy consumables and accessories online. I'll save taxes, pay no shipping, and spare myself the inconvenience/cost of going to the store.

Not my preference, but there's a limit to how far I'll go for the local guy.

[TPM man]

I hear ya! And with free shipping and no tax....sounds hard to beat.

[burninbriar]

It looks like Indiana Oxygen offers the 251 with 30A spoolgun for 2677.77.
Complete package seems to be with regular gun and running gear.

[burninbriar]

TPM man, I know your frustration -- firsthand!

I, too, want to help the local businesses as much as I can, but some of them don't act like they want to be helped. Haven't decided which machine to get as my new welder, but I've been researching price, service, and the like.

I'm not a professional and won't be running the machine 'round-the-clock, so I have a lower likelihood of needing service (and I can take care of routine stuff myself). So, I plan on thoroughly researching options and then buying everything online -- and save on taxes and the inconvenience/cost of going to the store.

Not my preference, but there's a limit to how far I'll go for the local guy.

I agree with you 100%.
I think miller would take a dim view of a dealer who refuses to service a machine becouse you didnt buy it from them.

[Scuppers]

I agree with you 100%.
I think miller would take a dim view of a dealer who refuses to service a machine becouse you didnt buy it from them.

You pointed to one of issues I'm considering as I research different manufacturers. So far, I haven't gotten a straight answer to that question as far as Miller goes.

Depending on the manufacturer and its policies, I might have to ship the machine somewhere (it won't be a large machine, say, under 80 pounds). With my particular application, it seems to me that if I go with a well-designed and manufactured welder, I'm less likely to require major service. So, I should be better off paying the shipping cost *contingent* on needing service, rather than very definitely pay the sales tax up-front.