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    The word is going around that Miller has a fix for the LExxxxxx Maxstar 150's to enable them to run 1/8" 6010 rods with no problem. I remember when I first got mine I could not keep the arc going with a 1/8" 6010 and had to switch to 6011's. Can you confirm if that is correct? Thanks
    Regards, George

    Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
    Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
    Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

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  • #2
    Good question.

    The weld tests on 6010s were good with the 6010 5P+ but the standard 6010 did experience arc outages and was not reccommended. Jeff Johnson from TIG service said the only update was a capacitor update to fix a starting error that would pop up once in awhile. When trying to start, you would only get a small arc and the blue light would start flashing.

    Are you running it on 230 or 115?

    Andy

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ASKANDY
      Good question.

      The weld tests on 6010s were good with the 6010 5P+ but the standard 6010 did experience arc outages and was not reccommended. Jeff Johnson from TIG service said the only update was a capacitor update to fix a starting error that would pop up once in awhile. When trying to start, you would only get a small arc and the blue light would start flashing.

      Are you running it on 230 or 115?

      Andy
      First thanks for the quick response. I am running 240V unless I can't find any, I did expierence the starting problem with the first unit I had but it was replaced (within three days, I might add) with a upgraded unit (STL with three process led's) and I havn't had any problems since. I can run 3/32nd 6010 rods without any problem but for most things I use 7018 rods anyway so there is really no problem and my main use is tig on 16ga tubing anyway. The only reason I brought it up was that the subject came up on a few other forums and I wondered if there really was a fix for the 6010 thing. Since it runs 6011 (and most everything else I have tried) very well I don't think it's a really big deal on the 6010's. Thank you for clearing this up, I really like the Maxstar alot and would only sell it to get a Dynasty.....that is when I win the lottery, or get a uncontrolable urge to tig aluminum (right now my 210/3035 works fine for that)
      Regards, George

      Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
      Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
      Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

      Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
      Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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      • #4
        Thanks George.

        It really does weld great and 6010 is such an ugly rod with lot of spatter that I shy from it anyway unless I have to.

        seeya

        A-

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        • #5
          George,

          The only upgrade your Maxstar 150 STL needs is for you to trade it in on a Maxstar 150 STH.

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          • #6
            That's right!!

            Those are little pocket rockets. I like showing those off at these race shows and air shows.

            A-

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            • #7
              I have the STH, and the ONLY problem I have had has been with 6010 (even 5P, even 3/32) tripping the uint out. Not a major problem, but annoying. I thought it was the power system at first, until I plugged into an outlet right at the panel and it happened (240V)

              I do run a fair bit of 6010, but more 7018, so not a big issue. (wish I got more TIG time in, but we have a synchro350 at work, so I only have about 6 hours of TIG on the 150. Maybe 100 hours of stick. Not a lot, but with 6 (or 7?) machines to choose from at work, it tends to get used when I am on the hilo basket, or in places where I cables don't easily drag)

              Ran a dropout probe on the line, and it didn;t indicate (trips on -10% for 1/2 cycle or more-- essentially a missed cycle detector) so I am confident it is the machine. Bought the unit just about the beginning of March last year... Is this due for a shop call for a fix?

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              • #8
                ANDY will be gone untill the 22nd. I would take it in if it were doing that to me. Thats what warrenty service is for.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dan
                  George,

                  The only upgrade your Maxstar 150 STL needs is for you to trade it in on a Maxstar 150 STH.
                  Dan,

                  If I could figure out a way to upgrade for $250 difference or so then I would do it no problem.
                  Regards, George

                  Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
                  Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
                  Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

                  Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
                  Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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                  • #10
                    George
                    Just get you some of those 6011C's I sent you. They are all you'll need for 6011/10. FWIW, I noticed that they are listed on the Airgas site as Lincoln Easy Arc 6011C's now. They were Airco Easy Arc 6011c by Lincoln.

                    I still like the 5P+ better. Old habits are hard to break. Although, the .045 flux core I'm running acts a little like the 5P. It even looks better.
                    Don


                    '06 Trailblazer 302
                    '06 12RC feeder
                    Super S-32P feeder

                    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
                    Esab Multimaster 260
                    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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                    • #11
                      150 STL flashing light

                      I too have had the unfortunate "flashing blue light blues" and was wondering if this could use a board upgrade?????????? With mine it seams to better with stainless rods than 7018. Trust me, I'm not a complainer, but the absolute WORST is to be under a vehicle and have this "flashing blue light" thing happen. I have too gone through extensive line testing, ANDY what gives?? Can I have mine upgraded?? (less than six months old). I live in Canada so this could take some explaining to the right people if you know what I mean. Waiting patiently for your response, thanx.
                      ____________________________________________

                      Cheers, and
                      are we there yet?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DDA52
                        George
                        Just get you some of those 6011C's I sent you. They are all you'll need for 6011/10. FWIW, I noticed that they are listed on the Airgas site as Lincoln Easy Arc 6011C's now. They were Airco Easy Arc 6011c by Lincoln.

                        I still like the 5P+ better. Old habits are hard to break. Although, the .045 flux core I'm running acts a little like the 5P. It even looks better.
                        I did get a few pounds from the local Airgas, but if I am using stick I tend to grab some 7018's first. I am starting to use more fluxcore outside as I like the cleanup better, even though the HH140 is a bit heavier to carry around. What machine are you running the .045 fluxcore in ?
                        Regards, George

                        Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
                        Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
                        Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

                        Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
                        Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sundown
                          I did get a few pounds from the local Airgas, but if I am using stick I tend to grab some 7018's first. I am starting to use more fluxcore outside as I like the cleanup better, even though the HH140 is a bit heavier to carry around. What machine are you running the .045 fluxcore in ?

                          George,
                          looks like you bought the wrong Maxstar.
                          Attached Files

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sundown
                            I did get a few pounds from the local Airgas, but if I am using stick I tend to grab some 7018's first. I am starting to use more fluxcore outside as I like the cleanup better, even though the HH140 is a bit heavier to carry around. What machine are you running the .045 fluxcore in ?
                            Glad you found some, George. They are good if you want 6011's. Their 6010 Pipecraft isn't bad either. Been using them since Airco was in business.

                            I'm using the .045 f/c in the 8VS feeder running it off of the Bobus. I might even try some 1/16 f/c for the big stuff...or atleast to play around. Here is what the .045 will do on 3/8 plate and the feeder.
                            Attached Files
                            Don


                            '06 Trailblazer 302
                            '06 12RC feeder
                            Super S-32P feeder

                            HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
                            Esab Multimaster 260
                            Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Scott V
                              George,
                              looks like you bought the wrong Maxstar.
                              Yeah, I could sure do alot of tiggin with that
                              Regards, George

                              Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
                              Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
                              Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

                              Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
                              Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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