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    I just recently purchased a new 230v MM175. The other day I was fooling around in the garage and measued the actual voltage where I plug my machine in and it registered 242v. Are the extra 12v something that I should worry about? Thanks
    IBRAILN
    MM175

    "Live for Today. Yesterday is Gone and Tomorrow May Never Come" -unknown

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    242 volt is actually very good.I beleive that your service probably is a 240v. service anyways.My 240 volt service,right now is actualy reading 251 volts on my voltmeter and it is not a problem at all.I beleive that The rule of thumb for voltage is + or minus 10 percent.My 480 volt service,right now, reads 501 volts.Remember that as power consumption changes in you area during the day,final voltage will change also.Welders and motors are designed to handle these minor fluctuations.This is all normal and You will be fine.

    tooldude56

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    • #3
      Well thats good info to know. Thanks for you help.
      MM175

      "Live for Today. Yesterday is Gone and Tomorrow May Never Come" -unknown

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      • #4
        The "220" and "110", "115" volt numbers are a holdover from the days of rural electification!

        In today's world, nominal domestic service is 240V single phase 60Hz in the USA. Depending on your specific dynamics, voltages may vary 15 volts either way. It changes as the load on the primary distibution grid changes, and it's nothing to worry about.

        Hank
        ...from the Gadget Garage
        Millermatic 210 w/3035, BWE
        Handler 210 w/DP3035
        TA185TSW
        Victor O/A "J" series, SuperRange

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hankj
          The "220" and "110", "115" volt numbers are a holdover from the days of rural electification!

          In today's world, nominal domestic service is 240V single phase 60Hz in the USA. Depending on your specific dynamics, voltages may vary 15 volts either way. It changes as the load on the primary distibution grid changes, and it's nothing to worry about.

          Hank
          I have 256V comming in on my service,Everything works great.

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          • #6
            Everybody is correct

            When i inspect a house, (second Job) the electric co is allowed by the dpuc, that all electric co,s are allowed a 10%+ or_ ,,,and its 120 and 240, the old time electricans always called it 110 and 220, So you are better off a little high, when the summer comes and everybody has the central ac running, you will see the drop,,,when I was building my house, i have 1100 ft, driveway all underground, with a 200 amp service, i had 95 volts, and the electric co, told me i was not a licenced electrican, even though i use a snap on meter, they say you need a fluke,But am a licenced home inspector, every time i would hit my chop saw the neighbors tv screen would shrink,so they lug me up on the pole, and blew the neighbors ca almost right off its pad,They never checked his, after I told him hes off the same transformer, they had to pay for all his repairs, and put a transformer up my driveway,Bettter off the way you are, Hope this helps, Jack-PS the snap on was closer than 3 of there flukes by 2 tenths,Got to love the electric companys!!!!!

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            • #7
              Okay Storts...I am not trying to upset you, I truly am curious though...If you do 4.5 million in sales a year as a distributor, and claim to be doing much better than anyone else, why do you have a second job as a home inspector? Is home inspecting lucrative? I ask not to put you down, merely because I would like to become a building contractor later in life (Mechanical Engineer now with MSME), and thought that maybe getting into inspecting (as a side job also) would be a good avenue to pursue in the mean time.
              Thanks,
              Joshua

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              • #8
                Please do not go there with him.

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                • #9
                  Joshua,

                  Here in Cauliflower, you have to have verifiable experience in the trades at journey level OR verifiable construcion projects an an owner/builder to get a gneral contractors (A) license. The B license (engineering contractor) requires verifiable experience in civil projects (roads, sewers, etc.) But, you don't need either one to be an inspector. Get an ICBO ticket, and your good to go.

                  Hank
                  ...from the Gadget Garage
                  Millermatic 210 w/3035, BWE
                  Handler 210 w/DP3035
                  TA185TSW
                  Victor O/A "J" series, SuperRange

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                  • #10
                    First thing first,

                    Originally posted by jolane
                    Okay Storts...I am not trying to upset you, I truly am curious though...If you do 4.5 million in sales a year as a distributor, and claim to be doing much better than anyone else, why do you have a second job as a home inspector? Is home inspecting lucrative? I ask not to put you down, merely because I would like to become a building contractor later in life (Mechanical Engineer now with MSME), and thought that maybe getting into inspecting (as a side job also) would be a good avenue to pursue in the mean time.
                    Thanks,
                    Joshua
                    Where do you live, ? and your not knocking me down at all, we are all here to help each other, the 4.5 Mil was before 911, and china killing us, and stell going through the ceiling, so in ct, and the North east, the "JOB SHOP" is far becoming a thing of the past,so,with my back condition, i have to look into everything I know, and have always loved construction, In the N.E.Area they aretaking deposits on 1/2 mil to 3/4 million dollars homes before they even dig for the basement, and there seems like no let up for contractors, and the banks are giving away money to everybody, Storts Welding is 101 years old, and im the 4th or 5th owner, and i can see the hand riting on the wall,So Yes, there is so much work out there ,for new homes and older homes sold,and the best thing about it is they give you a check or cash before you take your clip board out, they sign a realise, saying that they will not sue you, give you the check, and away you go,They have a computer program,Kinda like quick books that i use for the welding buisness, (yes it has spell check,Thank God!) and you do your field report, come to the office, fill in the blanks, and e mail it rite to the customer, and print it out, and mail them a hard copy,,This way my wife can quit work, and run the office, as I putting up a new shop on my property,Sold my 1883 old brewery building in Meriden, ct, 24" thick walls,,great on the back ,So after 27 going on 28 years, ive been through 2 ressions, and what ever you call this now),Hope this helps and feel free to ask away when ever you want, Jack

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                    • #11
                      Ps

                      Originally posted by storts
                      Where do you live, ? and your not knocking me down at all, we are all here to help each other, the 4.5 Mil was before 911, and china killing us, and stell going through the ceiling, so in ct, and the North east, the "JOB SHOP" is far becoming a thing of the past,so,with my back condition, i have to look into everything I know, and have always loved construction, In the N.E.Area they aretaking deposits on 1/2 mil to 3/4 million dollars homes before they even dig for the basement, and there seems like no let up for contractors, and the banks are giving away money to everybody, Storts Welding is 101 years old, and im the 4th or 5th owner, and i can see the hand riting on the wall,So Yes, there is so much work out there ,for new homes and older homes sold,and the best thing about it is they give you a check or cash before you take your clip board out, they sign a realise, saying that they will not sue you, give you the check, and away you go,They have a computer program,Kinda like quick books that i use for the welding buisness, (yes it has spell check,Thank God!) and you do your field report, come to the office, fill in the blanks, and e mail it rite to the customer, and print it out, and mail them a hard copy,,This way my wife can quit work, and run the office, as I putting up a new shop on my property,Sold my 1883 old brewery building in Meriden, ct, 24" thick walls,,great on the back ,So after 27 going on 28 years, ive been through 2 ressions, and what ever you call this now),Hope this helps and feel free to ask away when ever you want, Jack
                      The distributer is a third job,So got to keep one step ahead, because if you dont some one else will,Jack--And you still have the hasstle of the money collection, even some of my fortune 100 companys have slow pay times also,The best about the Home Inspection, is every Job is a COD

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                      • #12
                        Your doing the same thing

                        Originally posted by jolane
                        Okay Storts...I am not trying to upset you, I truly am curious though...If you do 4.5 million in sales a year as a distributor, and claim to be doing much better than anyone else, why do you have a second job as a home inspector? Is home inspecting lucrative? I ask not to put you down, merely because I would like to become a building contractor later in life (Mechanical Engineer now with MSME), and thought that maybe getting into inspecting (as a side job also) would be a good avenue to pursue in the mean time.
                        Thanks,
                        Joshua
                        Joshua, I applaud you for Being a engineer, But you are looking ahead also, I just turned 50 ,and dont want to be in the shop when i hunched over at 75, want to out there playing, Because welding is my first love,and I also enjoy the Home inspection, If not i would go back into radio,that I did part time when I was 19-20 years old, the clock is ticking, so and you know its a changing world out there, the job shop is a rat race, everybody wants it tommorow,and with the price of steel,same a being a distrubter,Every one is cutting the other ones back, and the good cust. stay with you,But the new start ups are squezzing every last penny out of you, bottom line is your markup and profit like it was in the 80's we will never see again,I dont think,Just go to the christmas tree shop and look at some steel ornamental stuff they sell, All of us in the buisness cant buy the material for what they sell the finished product for, takes all the craftsman ship out of it, But look at the bottom and where are they all amde, i went to a conference up by bowston, and it was all about china, Turn on the tv and it says how the economy is bursting,and we put 1 million new Jobs on,What happened to the 4.5 mil or5 million we lost?People dont realize it,and with the banks handing out money,better credit, lower interest, but if you have the worst credit, you still get the morgage, and pay a higher interest rate, I dont make the rules , Just follow them,and learned that nothing is secure ant more,so you have to try and study and hopefully you are rite to be 1 ft ahead of the next step thats coming,I might be 1000% wrong,but if you out banging on doors and talking to people,its happining, Keep plugging away, and i wish you the best of luck,Jack

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                        • #13
                          Not in Ct, Hank

                          Originally posted by hankj
                          Joshua,

                          Here in Cauliflower, you have to have verifiable experience in the trades at journey level OR verifiable construcion projects an an owner/builder to get a gneral contractors (A) license. The B license (engineering contractor) requires verifiable experience in civil projects (roads, sewers, etc.) But, you don't need either one to be an inspector. Get an ICBO ticket, and your good to go.

                          Hank
                          There is only 22 states that require a home inspectors licence, and ct. is one of them,I tought it would be alot easier than it was, ct. requires 40 hrs, my class was 100-200 hrs,alot tougher than i thiught, but my licence is good for all of 50 states,Like we are going to have a earthquake in ct? maybe, learned a awful lot, especially about termites,and post beetle bugs,,I recomend it to everybody, espically, that whit in the next 5 years all states will make you go to school,Hope it helps, jack, me and Mig talked one night and i got the run around from the state,Thats what he ment, was not the schools fault, but this wonderful st of ct, I got them, Jack

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Hank and Jack,
                            IWhen I said general contractor, I guess I was not very clear, and meant residential contractor. My background is in cabinets and fine furniture, which pays very little. Good thing it is only a hobby now. I have also performed construction on my own house, and electrical wiring. I am not sure about the requirements in NM, and will have to look into it at some point. I am just looking ahead, right now I have a full time mechanical design job at a local small company. Maybe inspecting would be a good start though, I know our city does a crap job of inspecting residential stuff (heck, around here if they drive by and look over at your project that is considered good).
                            Again, thanks for the info.
                            Joshua

                            Maybe appraisal would be a good profession also for side work?

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                            • #15
                              I will check for You also,

                              Originally posted by jolane
                              Thanks Hank and Jack,
                              IWhen I said general contractor, I guess I was not very clear, and meant residential contractor. My background is in cabinets and fine furniture, which pays very little. Good thing it is only a hobby now. I have also performed construction on my own house, and electrical wiring. I am not sure about the requirements in NM, and will have to look into it at some point. I am just looking ahead, right now I have a full time mechanical design job at a local small company. Maybe inspecting would be a good start though, I know our city does a crap job of inspecting residential stuff (heck, around here if they drive by and look over at your project that is considered good).
                              Again, thanks for the info.
                              Joshua

                              Maybe appraisal would be a good profession also for side work?
                              I have a map somewhere, that shows the states on home inspection, if you are talking building inspectors, in my part of the world,N.E. it is a appointed position, and every buildinspecter i worked with, except Killingworth,where i live, they are contracters that could not make it there own buisness!!! and were politaly connected,I dont play that game, because its going to come back and bite ya on the ***,,,and they love the power trip, as a home inspector, you cant shut down a job,,1/2 of the course is all about there code of ethiccs,,,when a building inspector is hired and employed through the town or city,and the Power trip they are on,If your wondering what im doing, could not sleep,and if i can help some one thats my nature,wish I had somebody that gave me all the info first, The state read off a 3 year old web page,That the laws in ct. are complty different now,,,if not i would have gone into indepent Ins. adjuster, which you dont need a lincence for,We live in the Ins. cap.,thats Hartford ct.and our capital, Ins cos, love to hire independants, instead of full time employess,,no bennies to pay for, taxes,etc.sorry this is so long, But its the only way to explain it,again, if you need any addvice that i can help you with,Jusk ask,I have always treated people the way i want to be treated!!! and it works, But you still have to look out for the people that will take advantage of you,That you learn over the years,and they dont treat it in classrooms, sounds like your head is screwed on the proper way, and I coomend you for that,and that engineering degree will help you Tremdesly in the long run! Jack

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