few questions

[d-dawgg]

can u power a mm175 on avg. house power? can anyone tell me if the 5000 HD from lincoln electric is any good?: http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...eet.asp?p=7107
and could it plug into the avg. houses walls?

[HAWK]

d-dawg,

The MM175 draws approximately 20 amps at 230 Volt AC at its rated duty cycle of 130 welding amps ouput for 3 minutes. Therefore, a 30 amp 230 VAC supply circuit would power the machine without strain. That is pretty much equivalent to a standard clothes dryer circuit.

The Lincoln you linked is a flux core only machine that requires an optional gas conversion kit to use as a standard gas shielded MIG welder. If you want something along this line look at the Lincoln SP135+ or the Miller MM135. These are comparable machines and come ready to weld. All you need to add is shielding gas in the form of CO2 or an Argon/CO2 mix.

[d-dawgg]

but

the mm135 only welds 3/16'' and i need atleast 1/4

[d-dawgg]

d-dawg,

The MM175 draws approximately 20 amps at 230 Volt AC at its rated duty cycle of 130 welding amps ouput for 3 minutes. Therefore, a 30 amp 230 VAC supply circuit would power the machine without strain. That is pretty much equivalent to a standard clothes dryer circuit.

The Lincoln you linked is a flux core only machine that requires an optional gas conversion kit to use as a standard gas shielded MIG welder. If you want something along this line look at the Lincoln SP135+ or the Miller MM135. These are comparable machines and come ready to weld. All you need to add is shielding gas in the form of CO2 or an Argon/CO2 mix.

>>>>>Where did you see the SP135, i went to the site and appearently there is no such thing. can I have a link.

[wrench3047]

here's a link to one on ebay.
if you scroll down the specs on the page.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45032&item=3860843413&rd=1

you can find them at Lowe's, Home Depot. I don't know if those stores are in Canada.

[BCarlucci]

The SP135 is still only a 3/16ths machine as well, i know lincoln might say it's a 1/4 inch machine, but being honest it's diffenetly not a 1/4 inch machine unless your using flux cored wire. The reason Miller says 3/16ths is becauase they don't want you to crank your machine and run it till burns, this is my veiw on it. I know guys who do weld 1/4" with the MM135, your not getting the best penitration as you would if you used a bigger machine. Not only that but Lincoln's 135sp is also plastic on the inside, i'd much rather have the sturdness of an all Alum Cast drive roll system, like the MM135

BC

[fun4now]

i have the MM135

it is a great lil welder, ive had mine for almost a year.never a problem, it has run like a champ. if you are comparing the MM135 (miller's) V/S the sp135 (red's) the output power is the same. but if you put the 2 side by side you will quickly see that the miller is better built. i dont care what any sails man tells you the miller is just better built.
as for welding 1/4" i have done it with a great deal of prep and preeheat. i would not use it on anything critical like a motorcycle i was going to ride but i was just fixing a handle (no real stress on it).
if 1/4" is needed and it is a safty thing you realy need to jump up to the MM175. it will run off your dryer outlet and you can have a circuit run for it in the garage. houshold 220V power is fine.

i would stay away from the welders that need a add on to run gas it will end up being more $$$ in the long run as i'm shoure you will want to try gas and once you have tryed it you will not want to go back to flux except for the emergencys.
good luck with your choices if you want more precise ansers we would need more info on what you intend to build if you are just playing around at the house fixing stuff and maybe making a go cart or stuff like that i would say go for the MM135 if you need 1/4" like to build a motorcycle then you will need the MM175 (i'm going for the dyn200DX for my motorcycle project but it's $$$$$ so i'm still saving )

[Paul Seaman]

I have owned a similar machine to the 5000hd {weldpak100} and it was fine for a field repair, but flux core is not great inside a home shop. Add a hundred bucks for the mig conversion kit, forget it! If 1/4" is the benchmark your aiming for then the mm175 will be the entry for that puropse. The mm175 a great hobbist machine and will weld 1/4" but it is the machines max rating.

As for the quality, it wasn't the quality of miller. The 5000hd is a retail consumer model and is for a hobbyist. The gun is too light of any abuse and if you get into any long runs the gun gets hot. I started with a Lincoln and now own nothing but miller.

Peace,