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  • rb455ho
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    syn 180 or dynasty 200dx

    I have a sync 180 and I weld 3/16 aluminum all the time with no problem at all. The machnine never overheats with a 20-30% duty cycle. I will be purchasing a syn 350 as I need to weld 1/2"-1.0" after the new year. I will eventually purchase a 300dx. I am going to try some 1/4" with my syn 180 tommorow and let you know how it works. I believe duty cycle is the key.

    Thanks Rob

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  • fun4now
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    yes

    and with the power controle circuit it alows for + or - 10% curent without interupting the weld performance

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  • Kelly Aitken
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    Iam also trying to decide on the 200 or the 180. How generater friendly is the 200. Will it run off a 5000 watt gen?

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  • austy888
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    200 dx vs 180 sd.

    i recently purchased a 200 dx. it is an awesome machine. however you should know that i use a 250 syncrowave at work and learned to weld with that machine. the dynasty is giving me fits be cause the inverter arc is vastly different. not to mention that welding aluminum with a focused arc is alot different than welding with a balled tung and a fat arc. this is all overcomable and the dynasty has alot of ac arc shaping adjustments. and also take into consideration that the 200 dx is an inverter and draws alot lees amperage. the 180 will draw 60 amps at the rated amperage, the 200dx will draw about 20 at the rated amperage. i love my dynasty but the 180 is a fine machine and you have to weigh if the features are worth the extra money. welding1/4 aluminum is possible although if you are going to weld 1/4 and thicker aluminum alot, maybe you should consider a syncrowave 250 tig runner with wc torch, or th dynasty 300 dx. hop this helps

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  • DEA
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    http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb30328.htm
    Here's another good link

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  • fun4now
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    ummmm lil to far to pop over and try out your new dyn300

    when you planing on getting it ?

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  • df5152
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    down state...Long Island

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  • fun4now
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    df5152

    i'm near genneseo, just south of rochester

    far enough frome people to shoot skeet in my yard

    Li ?? you in lima ??

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  • df5152
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    fun4now where in ny r u?

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  • fun4now
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    congrats

    i'm shoure you will injoy having the dynasty 200 DX, as im shoure it will handle most all automotive work a lil slower than MIG but a gret way to play

    dont forget 1.5% or 2% lanthanated (no pure tung.)

    hopefully i'll have mine some time this month

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  • jevs
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    The 200DX is on order (they didn't have one in stock that hadn't been a demo). After many hours of reading and talking to the Miller people today I have decided to return the 180SD and get the Dynasty 200DX. The really cool thing is they matched the best price on EBAY! It is not hard to justify the $1000 difference I will be paying for the Dynasty, but it was tough to justify the $3000 more I would have spent on the 300DX. I will rarely if ever need to weld a head, but may need to at some point, and I think the 200 will do it for me with the right mix and setting and preheat. I can live with that for the advantage of having the lower current setting, portability, 110V operation, and less current draw. After carefully weighing everything, I just could not stick with the SD180 or move all the way up to a Dynasty 300DX. Thanks for all the advice I will be posting some more questions in different threads.

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  • fun4now
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    the 200 will be working it's little box off on the heads and thick stuf multy passing for shoure. if you need the 110V option go with the 200 it will give you great portability and a good strong arc.
    if you dont need the 110V option and can aford the 300 it will no dought be the only TIG you will need for all your auto repairs. as for the water cooler it depends on how big a job you will be doing and how offten. my gues is most of the time you will be in the lower end of its amp output and be fine with air cooled. you can always add a cooler later if you realy feel the need. air is more conveneant for the lil quick fixes. watter is realy for long term welding or high amp stuff.

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  • Harold
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    Jevs

    Welcome to the world of the big doubt. I know this welding thing is addictive, been there, done that but... since you are asking here is my 2 cents. Have both the SD180 and Dynasty 200 DX. Had I bought the Dynasty first I wouldn't have both but much too late for that. I love the SD180 and that's why I still have it; no doubt in my mind though that the Dynasty is better, much better. Uses less power, great portability, runs on any commercial power, just stick the right cable adapter on it and plug it in, no linking, no jumpers to change, nothing else required. (110, 230 single phase, 230, 400, 460 three phase) and your off and running. Oh yes, it's also very generator friendly for those occassions your out in the boondocks with no commercial power. If you can afford it I'd recommend the Dynasty. Do a search on this forum for Hawks postings on the Dynasty series, lots of good information and recommendations from a power user that uses them. Regardless its your decision. Good luck and happy welding.
    Oh yes the manual is available to download from this site in case you want to look it over.
    Harold

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  • jevs
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    I have a 100 Amp service in my shop and plan to run the TIG on 220V. With this in mind could the 200 do the thick aluminum? I don't mind grooving it or multipassing it, or whatever it takes. I would love to stay in the price range of the dynasty 200. I was also reading about the stick welding on the dynasty 200 and I think that would be great, because I have rental properties, and you never know when you might need to weld up a mower or something at a different location (all of that equipment is stored and used at the rentals). I could pack up the 200 and some sticks and go fix stuff anywhere. I just thought of this extra bonus to the 200. This would not be an option on the heavier 300 that requires 220V. It could be done, but it would be more of a pain.

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  • Paul Seaman
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    They will both get down in the bottom pretty much the same the big difference is the power on the mid to upper amperage ranges. I have seen heads done with preheat and post heat and used less than 200 amps but the balance and control will be more critical, thus making the job more difficult. The 200 dx won't get it done on the heavy stuff on 115v you'll need 230v.
    Peace,

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