stick welder with dyn200

[fun4now]

i have already decided that i will be getting the dynasty200DX after my trip to canada
i was wondering if the dynasty dose a good job as a stick welder or if i should pick up a sepret stick machine.

i was thinking if i dont need a seperate stic welder maybe i could swing a watter coller for the dynasty insted of a buzz box.

has anyone used a dyn. for stick ?

thanks for the help

[Travis Beste]

I've burned a few rods with my D200DX and it seemed to do a very nice job. The arc is considerably different than that of my antique lincoln buzzbox. I much prefer the Dynasty's arc. I must have become and addict of the "inverter" arc already.

Travis

[ASKANDY]

Man you will not need a seperate stick machine. That unit even has a dig control for arc force! It's all you need.
Good choice!

Andy

[lramberson]

The sweetest arc I have used, This was verified with my neighborhood on site expert the "BOILERMAKER", I even had to go purchase 10LBS. of 7018 rods for him to weld some trailer stuff... It is a very fine unit that would be hard to match below 175 amps.. Duty starts to get short..

[fun4now]

cool

thanks all i thought it would be ok i just wasent shoure if it had stick as an after thought and i would do better with a buzz box. i'm glad to here it will do all great.
looks like i'll be looking into a cooler that means a little longer till i can use it though i thought about gettin the con. kit and upgrading to a cooler later but it seems like a wast of a lot of money on stuff ill end up shelving as soon as i get the cooler setup.

[HAWK]

James,

I ran my 200DX on a 15 amp 120 volt circuit the other evening at the in laws. There were some fouton and bed frames needing repair. I really did not want the hassle of cleaning and tigging. I burned some 3/32 7014's on AC and the welds were sweet. My machine was lost w/o a TIG torch and argon, but she did a great job!!!

[df5152]

does the 300 work the same way. im not sure the 200 will keep up with my aluminum needs?

[HAWK]

df5152,

The Dynasty 300 will not operate on 120VAC 1 phase input power and its about 80 lbs so portability and power availability over the road is more limited than with the Dynasty 200.

The 300DX is a great machine!!! I have no complaints and lots of praise for this machine.

[df5152]

whats the max capacity aluminum the 200 will do on a light production basis.

[HAWK]

df5152,

I have run 75% helium/ 25% argon with 1.5% lanthanated tungsten and single passed 1/4" wall x 2" square tubing to 1/4" Al plate. This is really pushing the machine at max and I had to swirl the puddle after each filler additon to thoroughly wash the toes.

I think 3/16" to 3/16" Al with a 50%/50% helium/argon shield would be the max for "light" production work with 220VAC input power (1 or 3 phase). Will the Dynasty 200 keep up this pace all day? Only if you stay within the duty cycle. At the rated DC on 220 VAC input this means about five 3 minute welds per hour.

If "light" production is the primary concern, then take a hard look at the 300DX Dynasty. At 180 amps this machine will form an instantaneous puddle on 3/8" Al fillets and make the weld around 165 amps. The Dynasty 200 won't do it. DON'T COMPARE AMP TO AMP OUTOUT BETWEEN THE DYNASTY 200 AND 300. The Dynasty 300 has tons more power than the 200DX.

If portability and 120 VAC operation is your primary concern, the 200DX is really your only choice among the Dynasty inverters.

I have said it several times, with opposition on occasion, that the 300DX Dynasty will outweld the Syncrowaves hands down. I still stand by that regardless of duty cycle ratings someone is reading from a catalog. I WISH ANDY WOULD JUMP IN AND SHARE HIS KNOWLEDGE ON THIS SUBJECT!!! We'll See.

[Sberry]

In theory a 2500$ machine should do better than a 400$ buzz box. I was thinking about a little Maxstar at some point but they Dyn seems more impressive everyime I read something about it.

[HAWK]

Sberry,

I have owned both machines and the Maxstar 200 is a fine unit. Its biggest drawback is lack of AC welding output for GTAW. Needless to say there is no AC for stick welding either. I will say it was very hard to resell even though it was only a year old when I put it on the market.

The Dynasty is only a few incher longer, a few pounds heavier, and a few light years more advanced in its capabilities. Twenty years ago I would have never considered carrying a 40 pound welder wth a 40 CF argon bottle and a few accesories into a customer's building planning to TIG repair a 3/16" Al piece. Twenty years later I cannot count the times I have done just that! On top of that there is a full featured pulser, a complete sequencing program, 30-99% adjustable EN balance, and nearly 150 amps of GTAW output on 120VAC 30 amp circuit!!!

As for my remarks concerning a lessened output by comparison to the Dynasty 300 it is true. All I mean is the Dynasty 300DX is a whole different machine design. You can do things with it at 180 amps that the Dynasty 200 will never do and a Syncrowave won't do at 300 amps!!!

[fun4now]

hobiest

well i think the dyn300 is a bit pricy for me but it sounds as if the dyn.200 will make a fine 1st tig to lern on that i dont think i will ever outgrow
it seems thet even with a dyn300 you(HAWK) still use and love the 200.
i'm shoure that i will not regret waiting a little longer so i can get the dyn200DX insted of the syncro180 / TA185


HAWK what do you think about this cooler

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[fun4now]

Hawk

HAWK what do you think about this cooler

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[Blown S-10]

yeah, wouldn't it be NICE if a humble wallet hobbie guy like myself could drop $5500 for a welder. but right now i'm trying to justify $3500. money doesn't come easy to me, otherwise it wouldn't even be an issue. if i thought i could make some money with it = different story. but i know that will never happen.

sure, i bet a 300 is stronger than a 200, thats a no brainer. but at the same output, say 180(as you put it), the 300 is still better. hmmm, sounds like the 200 would be strugling to do 200 amps. maybe it should have been called a 175. but then that # wouldn't sell as many machines.

"You can do things with it at 180 amps that the Dynasty 200 will never do and a Syncrowave won't do at 300 amps!!!"
i would like to know more why you say this.
right now i can use a lincoln idealarc 250. today i played with it on aluminum.
i took a 9/16x3x12" bar, and ran a bead on it. it melted it like nothing.


those maxstars resale is crap. i saw one, a 300 runner, like new. didn't get a bid at $2000.