Dynasty 200DX and waterchiller... what else do I need?

[jasonsp6]

Forgive me if this is answered elsewhere on this forum.... I have searched and have not found an answer.

I am contemplating purchasing a Dynasty 200DX, Coolmate 3, foot pedal and water chilled torch.

There are a few things that are left hanging...

I need to purchase a regulator / hose gas kit.

What do I do about the ground clamp?

Also, for example, are any additional hoses/ adapters required to connect a water chilled diamondback torch to the coolmate 3?

Are there any lower cost alternatives to the water chilled diamondback torch and the coolmate 3? I have heard mention about a cooler made by "Binzel" that is 100% identical. Where can I obtain information and purchasing information on that water cooler?


Thanks in advance.

[jeffscarstrucks]

I would not underestimate the value of an air cooled torch set up. There is no question that a water cooled torch is an asset when welding for more than a few inches at a time within the normal range of a 200 but many welds are short enough that you will never exeed the duty cycle of the torch. If your hand is hot, wait a minute! There is a good article on "TigDepot.com" about the use of air cooled torches. I have a water set up for my TIG use but my air cooled 9 or 17 torches are my most used simply for ease of set-up and portability.Don't discount the value and comfort of a water cooled set-up but it could be an up grade for later while you are welding now. Keep us posted and good luck, JEFF

[HAWK]

jasonsp6,

Good questions. Please view attached word document concerning the complete set up for an air cooled system. As Jeff mentioned the air cooled is great for portability and I think it is fine up to 130 amps for regular use and 200 amp for short duty cyle use. However, it does get hot in time and the water cooled system is much more comfortable.

The Miller Diamond Back torch has 3 hoses with fittings: 2 go the cooler and one goes to the gas outlet on the Dynasty. No additional hoses are needed. You will need a water cooled torch adapter part number 190 219. This should come in the Diamond Back torch kit. Do get the torch kit that has the highly flexible braided lines rather than the heavy duty plastic. The braided lines are much more flexible and easier to use. You can purchase the torch kit with flex braded lines, torch, adapter, regulator/flowmeter, and TIG handbook. It has all the goodies. See attached JPEG for the #20 Diamond Back torch wth color coded flex lines.

Here is a link to the Binzel Coolmate. However, I do not think you will find it any cheaper than the Miller Coolmate.

http://www.arc-zone.com/catalog/web_store.cgi?page=water2_binzel.html&cart_id=9870818_37056

[Canuck]

Torch fittings

Hi Hawk can you tell me what size fitting the DB20 torch has. I am in the process of building my own water cooler and would like to get that torch.
Thanks for any help.
KB

[HAWK]

45V11 Block

Canuck,

The best I can tell you is they are standard left hand threads common to water cooled torches. Stop by a dealer and look at a 45V11 Tig Block that is commonly used with the Syncrowave 250 for the torch hook up. It fits those block threads. You can buy the block for about $10.

Take a look at the gas fitting that goes into the front of your Dynasty and picture it left hand thread-hope this helps.

[Canuck]

Thanks for the reply Hawk but unfortunitly I don't have that Dynasty yet
Also most of my dealers would not know what you are talking about. Maybe if there is a miller dealer on here he can help me out. I also need to know of any adapters that I will need to hook up every thing to my 180sd.
Thanks in advance.