Mig gun question

[cope]

Re: Miller 210 valve problem

Originally posted by hangman
Yes, I just bought one and brought it home. stuck an arc and let off the trigger, gas kept flowing. I thought , this is just my luck to have a brand new machine with a bad valve. Called shop where I bought it, service guy said yes I have a service bulliten to replace both valves. Only thing I was a little ticked over was why didn't they replace them before I carried it home. They didn't even have any on hand but had to order them. They were pretty nice though and told me the next bottle of gas was on them.
Ron

From what I have heard and seen, the problem is pretty small compared to the number of 210s sold and all the bad solenoids didn't go to the same area. You can't blame the tech for not replacing your solenoids. He would have to open every weldser, set it up and weld to find out there is a problem, and then the customer would think he's getting a new machine.

[hangman]

Miller 210 valve problem

Yes, I just bought one and brought it home. stuck an arc and let off the trigger, gas kept flowing. I thought , this is just my luck to have a brand new machine with a bad valve. Called shop where I bought it, service guy said yes I have a service bulliten to replace both valves. Only thing I was a little ticked over was why didn't they replace them before I carried it home. They didn't even have any on hand but had to order them. They were pretty nice though and told me the next bottle of gas was on them.
Ron

[hankj]

I'm kinda hesitant about this post, because I think the horse is dead, for sure. Anyway, on the issue of respect, I too feel that for the members of this forum. While the handle chosen by the gent from B.C. is inoffensive of itself, it seems the connotation read into it by some my be offensive. IMHO, that's a personal problem. As a weldor and contributor, he gets my respect until he proves to be unworthy of it. Being clever ain't all bad, folks.

Be well.

hankj

[Paul Seaman]

Walker:
Well put!!!

Thanks,

[walker]

"I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone ruins it with some crap like this name!!" Quote from JWELD

Yet you don't seem to mind when there are words like "CRAP" doled out from time to time. Seems to me like your priorities need to shift from you minding his language to you minding your own.
" let he that is without sin..."

[walker]

"I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone ruins it with some crap like this name!!" Quote from JWELD

Yet you don't seem to mind when there are words like "CRAP" doled out from time to time. Seems to me like your priorities need to shift from you minding his language to you minding your own.
" let he that is without sin..."

[Tanner]

Originally posted by JWELD
I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone ruins it with some crap like this name!!

I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone flips out about a username that isn't even offensive. Get your minds out of the gutters here folks. Move on. It's over. Ok? Now back to helping this person.

[cope]

Originally posted by JWELD
I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone ruins it with some crap like this name!!

Jweld, you need to lighten up. If Miller had a problem with his name they would have yanked his posts.

[cunninglinguist]

Originally posted by JWELD
I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone ruins it with some crap like this name!!

Wow, I didn't know you are all so conservative here. I came here to ask for Miller help and hopefully give some back.

I really respect and enjoy the members of this forum until someone ruins it with some crap like this name!!

[cunninglinguist]

This is what I think was wrong:

When the trigger is pressed the electrical solenoid activates and pulls a piston inside that releases gas. When the trigger is released, the piston is supposed to be pushed back by a spring to stop the gas. Something is not right about the defective units that will not allow it to seat the piston back. Maybe it might be a weak spring or poor machining. The solenoids would stick open and would only shut close when i tap them with my finger. I could not see anything phsycally wrong with them even when I took them apart. There were no broken screws on my units.

BTW, both solenoids were defective on my new welder. The spoolgun and regular gun uses the same model solenoid. I tested them by interchanging them. Good thing I tested both because I plan to get the spoolgun for aluminum in the future.

Hope this helps.

[Canuck]

Hey Cunning could you maybe describe what was wrong with the solenoids if you know? I am just curious to know if it is the same problem that I had with mine(broken screw). Thanks

[cunninglinguist]

Hey all. Great news. I called the warranty repair shop about my problem two days ago. They called Miller and it seems there were defective gas solenoids on a batch of welders, mine was one of them. This was discussed on the Hobart forum (thanks Canuck). Miller immediatley shipped it after they called and I got my new solenoids today. If anybody has similar problems with the gas being stuck open on their new welders the problem is with the solenoids and Miller will send you new ones once they know. Its real easy to install too so don't worry about screwing up your warranty if you open the panel. Just don't touch any of the electronics especially the capacitors, it may hold a charge. There is a lot of room to work though. Installing it yourself is easier than hauling the 200+ lb unit to the shop.

BTW these solenoids were outsourced and not made by Miller.

Hope this helps anyone out there!!!

[Paul Seaman]

We probably can just leave it at face value, saying he is cleaver with words an thats that. Most wouldn't make more of it if we leave it alone. Atleast he isn't giving misleading electrical opinions. There are things that deserve a blind eye, this is one.

By the way, Welcome aboard

Peace to all,

[Tanner]

Re: Handle???????????????

Originally posted by H80N
The "Handle" is kinda cutsie... but is it appropriate for a welding forum where many of the members allow their children to read the content????
Just one man's opinion..........
Heiti

Though, if we are going to go that route, if the parents are doing what they're supposed to be doing, the children won't even notice the other meaning of the handle.

/devilsadvocate.


The above is not how I personally feel, but I felt that that idea needed to be thrown out there.